Leinster v Salarysins

[blockhead]

even if he argues the wasps player dipped into the tackle...which he does, ever so slightly....we're talking millimetres here.....I cannot see anything other than a mid range ban.
he has form for this but not many red cards (I think) unlike dylan hartley who has lots for dirty play.

Ah yes, but.
Time off for, previous good record, Captain of the chariot, playing the paddies next week, the chocolate hob nobs etc.
1 week ban.

[Twist]

“We know Owen is not that kind of player”

Is he talking about some other guy named Owen?

[fourthirtythree]

He literally is exactly "that type of player". He's a proven track record of high, late, no arms, and clotheslines in his past which the RFU have treated with extraordinary leniency akin to certain interpro incidents in Ireland. TBH I really would prefer he was playing against us just as I think the game needs it.

But that was a rotten cheap shot on a kid, really was, and if you keep on keeping on finding excuses for what he does it only escalates. He really has a whole shedload of free pases at this stage.

[MylesNaGapoleen]

even if he argues the wasps player dipped into the tackle...which he does, ever so slightly....we're talking millimetres here.....I cannot see anything other than a mid range ban.
he has form for this but not many red cards (I think) unlike dylan hartley who has lots for dirty play.

Ah yes, but.
Time off for, previous good record, Captain of the chariot, playing the paddies next week, the chocolate hob nobs etc.
1 week ban.

Not disagreeing, you maybe right, but it could also be argued that he is a prime "make an example" candidate for rugby union to send out a message about unacceptable tackling. he is english rugbys poster boy.

let's see. we will find out wednesday.

[Theleinsterlad]

Won’t be surprised if they say due to his record he will get the low end 2 week ban that will be reduced to 1 week due to the fact that the prem is playing Prem games twice a week at the mo due to Covid - sorted and available for both the champions cup and England internationals.

As a parent with kids playing rugby it will disgust me if that happens for our sport, the guy he hit is an academy player that has just come up and literally that tackle could have 1. Finished his career or 2. Caused long term illness/disability. It was totally wreckless he wanted to hurt the guy with a power tackle that he had no control of and there was f all dipping going on by Atkinson

[MylesNaGapoleen]

Won’t be surprised if they say due to his record he will get the low end 2 week ban that will be reduced to 1 week due to the fact that the prem is playing Prem games twice a week at the mo due to Covid - sorted and available for both the champions cup and England internationals.

As a parent with kids playing rugby it will disgust me if that happens for our sport, the guy he hit is an academy player that has just come up and literally that tackle could have 1. Finished his career or 2. Caused long term illness/disability. It was totally wreckless he wanted to hurt the guy with a power tackle that he had no control of and there was f all dipping going on by Atkinson

agree 100% about the dipping. I think I mentioned that there was a slight deviation in the wasps player going into the tackle....which is no excuse but I can see them using that arguing that as a mitigating factor. I also agree about the possibility they will be lenient on farrell....I don't think they will. what better "example" rugby union could make but to heavily penalise english rugbys poster boy.

[domhnallj]

The dipping excuse, if they use it, is complete horseshit. Regardless of how much he dipped, Farrell went clean over the wasps players shoulder and nearly took his head off. There was no way he was shoulder level at any stage of his tackle. Farrell should have the stones to hold his hands up, clearly state there was no excuse, and take the ban

[leinsterforever]

Wouldn't be surprised if he only got one week. Stuff like that has happened before - O'Connell avoiding a citing after kicking a prone player in the head because Munster had a big game against Clermont coming up springs to mind. Suppose it was easier to brush that one under the carpet because he somehow avoided getting sent off. It's going to be hard to mitigate the Farrell one down to only one week with it having been acknowledged as a clearcut red card already.

[leinsterforever]

The only defence I can see for Farrell is that the player stepped towards him. He could say he was on top of him before he expected it. Not much of an excuse, though.

[blockhead]

The only defence I can see for Farrell is that the player stepped towards him. He could say he was on top of him before he expected it. Not much of an excuse, though.

It's kinda similar to Hartley's smack to the side of Sean O'Briens head a few years back v Northampton. Although Farrell does it at much higher speed. The then England captain got a straight red but I cant remember what sanction followed.

[ronk]

The only defence I can see for Farrell is that the player stepped towards him. He could say he was on top of him before he expected it. Not much of an excuse, though.

It was a blindside hit. Guy had no opportunity to defend himself and didnt see it coming and Farrell was coming in hard and high to do maximum damage. It was a swinging arm that was supposed to have enough wrap that he'd get away with it.

Even if it was mistimed he's at fault for attempting a high risk and unnecessary tackle.

[deco]

Wouldn't be surprised if he only got one week. Stuff like that has happened before - O'Connell avoiding a citing after kicking a prone player in the head because Munster had a big game against Clermont coming up springs to mind. Suppose it was easier to brush that one under the carpet because he somehow avoided getting sent off. It's going to be hard to mitigate the Farrell one down to only one week with it having been acknowledged as a clearcut red card already.

"I was going for the ball ref"

[Twist]

The only defence I can see for Farrell is that the player stepped towards him. He could say he was on top of him before he expected it. Not much of an excuse, though.

Something similar happened Rob Kearney (i think) a couple of seasons back whereby Steff Evans stumbled immediately before contact and Kearney’s chest caught his head. It didnt do him any good, and it was far more pronounced than this

[blockhead]

NOTE: Between the citing panel decision and the QF, Saracens have 2 league games. So a 2 match ban will see him available for the qf.

[wixfjord]

NOTE: Between the citing panel decision and the QF, Saracens have 2 league games. So a 2 match ban will see him available for the qf.

Bans are in weeks not matches though right? Or has this changed?

[Oldschool]

With reference to the game itself.
It's rugby and as we should all be well aware.
Rugby games are won by forwards and the backs only decide by how much, except when exceptional players are involved.
Farrell as good a player as he is, is not a game changer in the manner of a Brian O'Driscoll for example or Lomu.

[blockhead]

NOTE: Between the citing panel decision and the QF, Saracens have 2 league games. So a 2 match ban will see him available for the qf.

Bans are in weeks not matches though right? Or has this changed?

TBH, not sure. But that game was an early kick-off so technically......

[blockhead]

With reference to the game itself.
It's rugby and as we should all be well aware.
Rugby games are won by forwards and the backs only decide by how much, except when exceptional players are involved.
Farrell as good a player as he is, is not a game changer in the manner of a Brian O'Driscoll for example or Lomu.

Farrell is one of the best players on the planet.

[carlow man]

When he's not tackling like a tramp, he is. The best players in the world didn't resort to that kind of stuff. He's been hitting people illegally for years and his national team coach encourages it. He should have been red carded on numerous occasions but always gets away with it because he's England rugby's golden child. Personally I would rather him play against us so when we beat them, they wont have any excuses and just to see his face when we gain revenge for last year.

[paddyor]

With reference to the game itself.
It's rugby and as we should all be well aware.
Rugby games are won by forwards and the backs only decide by how much, except when exceptional players are involved.
Farrell as good a player as he is, is not a game changer in the manner of a Brian O'Driscoll for example or Lomu.

He absolutely is a game changer in that manner.

https://youtu.be/bH0Wx1irhL0?t=1094