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Re: Schools SCT Rugby 22/23

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Lock9541 wrote: February 13th, 2023, 11:06 am
roarlad wrote: February 13th, 2023, 10:48 am Any update on the objection as to Clongowes playing an ineligible player vs. Terenue in the SCT?
I believe that the player was from KH who made the objection after the game.
How was the player ineligible?
From my understanding the player transferred from KH to Clongowes.
Probably a registration issue.
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Oh yeah there’s a rule where you have to be in the school for at least 18 months to play Cup Rugby.
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roarlad wrote: February 13th, 2023, 10:48 am Any update on the objection as to Clongowes playing an ineligible player vs. Terenue in the SCT?
I believe that the player was from KH who made the objection after the game.
Heard they’re having a replay
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The rule is player must have been in School for 20 month continuous period prior to start of Senior Cup. Anecdotal is that player joined Clongowes in May 2022 and completed 4th year. Surprising they are still in competition. Obviously Jesuititical logic
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ormond lad wrote: February 14th, 2023, 1:28 pm Clongowes game to be replayed.
https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/schools-se ... -replayed/
Surprising outcome. Great for Terenure.

The replay is on the 20th. Whoever wins will have to play a second round match in quick succession and if they win that a third game possibly within two weeks.

Meanwhile Michael's won't have played a match in over a month, having played in the first match of the tournament and been slated to play the last match of the 2nd round on the 24th, which will now be put back and have to work around JCT requirements.

It's a lot of juggling across three schools to accomodate a breach of the rules by one of them. Of course it would have been very hard on the Clongowes lads to have been kicked out due to errors by adults.
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If Terenure Win the Replay, logic assumes the Schools Committee have to carry out the draw again, as Terenure were not in the draw.
Their proposal to replace Clongowes with Terenure if they win does not solve the problem.

As St Michaels could refuse to play Terenure as they were not in the draw and refuse to play Clongowes because the fielded an illegible player.
They could claim a bye to the next round.

There are a lot of legal eagle parents from the three schools involved that are carefully reading the "Gamesmasters Handbook Competition Regulations" as we speak.

Here you go if interested in that sort of thing:

https://d2cx26qpfwuhvu.cloudfront.net/l ... s-2018.pdf
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Anyone have any thoughts on potential academy prospects outside of Spicer? I thought Canniffe in the centre was certainly worth a look for Michaels.
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Clongowes won replay 20-19 this morning
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7-0, 14-0, 17-0 to h-t. 17-7, 17-14, 17-19, 20-19.

Terenure started very slowly with lots of knock-ons in a blustery wind before their backs began to demonstrate lovely skills in the second-half. Both sides missed penalties in the second-half and the Terenure kick hit the post at 20-19.

Excellent second-half and Clongowes possibly deserved to shade it.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: February 20th, 2023, 2:08 pm 7-0, 14-0, 17-0 to h-t. 17-7, 17-14, 17-19, 20-19.

Terenure started very slowly with lots of knock-ons in a blustery wind before their backs began to demonstrate lovely skills in the second-half. Both sides missed penalties in the second-half and the Terenure kick hit the post at 20-19.

Excellent second-half and Clongowes possibly deserved to shade it.
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Eventful first half in Marys Zaga.
20-14 to zaga. 4 tries to 2.
Marys down to 14 after red for dangerous tackle.
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Hugo McLaughlin was quiet yesterday, Marys did well to avoid giving him big opportunities.

Andrew Sparrow looked like a future pro.
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Blackrock Team vs Roscrea

15. Charlie Molony (5yr)
14. James O’Sullivan
13. Luke Kritzinger
12. Mark Walsh (5yr)
11. Eoghan Walsh
10. Conor O’Shaughnessy (5yr)
9. Oliver Coffey
1. Tom O’Riordan
2. Mikey Yarr
3. Alex Mullan
4. Michael Colreavy
5. Tommy Butler (5yr)
6. Conor Tonge
7. Jack Angulo (5yr)
8. Tom Brigg
Replacements:
16. Gregg Barron
17. Paddy Moore (5yr)
18. Sami Bishti (4yr)
19. Donnacha McGuire (5yr)
20. Conall Hodges
21. Jack Larkin
22. Harry Whelan
23. Derry Moloney (5yr)

Looks like full strength team with the exception of Andrew Quinn missing out through (presumably) injury.
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Roscrea Team

15. Charlie O’Sullivan
14. Dan Punch
13. James Conroy
12. Billy Kelly
11. Rob Carney
10. Charlie Naughton – VICE CAPTAIN
9. Sean Finlay
1. Rory Og Doody
2. Lee Fitzpatrick
3. Caleb Kennedy
4. Caleb Schofield
5. Rory Glynn
6. Devon Byrne
7. Billy Hayes
8. Richie Whelan – CAPTAIN
Replacements:
16. Robbie Tynan
17. Harry Grant
18. Mike Metcalfe
19. Joe Finn
20. Josh Powell
21. Fabien Fleetwood
22. Jack Deegan
23. Andrew Walsh
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Very big win by Blackrock. 70-7
Too much power, pace, for CCR.
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I see Rock is still out to impose its way of life on us. Beating teams with that absoluteness is not victory, it is wanting or needing to impose something on others. Of course they will say they are operating from a place of integrity, determination and focus but it is anything but. The totalitarian and absolute nature of their “success” is really domination and bondage.
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Plámásing wrote: February 24th, 2023, 12:53 pm I see Rock is still out to impose its way of life on us. Beating teams with that absoluteness is not victory, it is wanting or needing to impose something on others. Of course they will say they are operating from a place of integrity, determination and focus but it is anything but. The totalitarian and absolute nature of their “success” is really domination and bondage.

Wow!
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Ruckedtobits wrote: February 24th, 2023, 1:07 pm
Plámásing wrote: February 24th, 2023, 12:53 pm I see Rock is still out to impose its way of life on us. Beating teams with that absoluteness is not victory, it is wanting or needing to impose something on others. Of course they will say they are operating from a place of integrity, determination and focus but it is anything but. The totalitarian and absolute nature of their “success” is really domination and bondage.

Wow!
The genies out of the bottle now…
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I blame Terenure, Rock changed after been beaten by Terenure in 5 JCT/SCT finals in a row in the 1970's/80's.
Rumor has it that at least one Rock player was on all five beaten teams, I think his name was Gary McMahon.

1976 Terenure College beat Blackrock College 6-4 - JCT Final
1977 Terenure College beat Blackrock College 12-10 -JCT Final
1978 Terenure College beat Blackrock College 10-6 - JCT Final
1979 Terenure College beat Blackrock College 15-9 - SCT Final
1980 Terenure College beat Blackrock College 12-10 - SCT Final
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