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Hands away,
Your bang on there! Newbridge were 14-11 up in Roscrea with two mins to go. Camped on their own line had clearance a kick blocked down. It bounced their way then went the lenght of the pitch to get the extra score to put them out of sight. On another day the ball could have bounced for Roscrea. Just goes to show what a great competition the towns cup is.


I thought the draw was at half six this evening.
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Great win for athy! When is the draw? Is it on newstalk
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The draw is not for 2 weeks.
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aisling7 wrote:I'm not so sure about Mullingar beating Ashbourne!
Mullingar 21-20 Ashbourne.
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If the draw is 2 weeks time, have weekends been set for the 2nd/3rd round?
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Broken Wing wrote:
aisling7 wrote:I'm not so sure about Mullingar beating Ashbourne!
Mullingar 21-20 Ashbourne.
I know - 1 flipping point :(
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Last kick of the game too, or so I'm told.
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beechers wrote:If the draw is 2 weeks time, have weekends been set for the 2nd/3rd round?
The second round is March 14th
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Draw to be on 20th Feb

Mullingar v Ashbourne to be replayed due to team sheet irregularities
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groundhog wrote:Draw to be on 20th Feb

Mullingar v Ashbourne to be replayed due to team sheet irregularities
So we can assume it was a Mullingar irregularity as Ashbourne can't profit from an irregularity. As it is a replay the branch must have deemed it an honest mistake as otherwise it would have been a disqualification.
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Armchair wrote:
groundhog wrote:Draw to be on 20th Feb

Mullingar v Ashbourne to be replayed due to team sheet irregularities
So we can assume it was a Mullingar irregularity as Ashbourne can't profit from an irregularity. As it is a replay the branch must have deemed it an honest mistake as otherwise it would have been a disqualification.
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Ashbourne objected to Mullingar naming seven replacements on the referee’s card in their Newstalk Provincial Towns Cup 1st round tie last Saturday, a game Mullingar won 21-20, contrary to the regulations, which allow for five replacements to be named. The Competitions Committee overturned the result and ordered a replay to take place in Mullingar on Sunday 14th February.

The draw for the second round of the Newstalk Provincial Towns Cup will take place in the lead up to the Leinster v Scarlets Magners League game in the RDS on Saturday 20th February (full details still to be finalised).
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hands away wrote:
Armchair wrote:
groundhog wrote:Draw to be on 20th Feb

Mullingar v Ashbourne to be replayed due to team sheet irregularities
So we can assume it was a Mullingar irregularity as Ashbourne can't profit from an irregularity. As it is a replay the branch must have deemed it an honest mistake as otherwise it would have been a disqualification.
Both from the branch;

Ashbourne objected to Mullingar naming seven replacements on the referee’s card in their Newstalk Provincial Towns Cup 1st round tie last Saturday, a game Mullingar won 21-20, contrary to the regulations, which allow for five replacements to be named. The Competitions Committee overturned the result and ordered a replay to take place in Mullingar on Sunday 14th February.

The draw for the second round of the Newstalk Provincial Towns Cup will take place in the lead up to the Leinster v Scarlets Magners League game in the RDS on Saturday 20th February (full details still to be finalised).
Such a stupid mistake could be very costly, I have seen this happen before with the ref advicing the team manager that only 5 subs can be named before the match starts.
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Mullingar only used 4 subs so the administrative error had no impact on the result. Ashbourne spotted the error before kick off and took photos of the bench but didn't bother objecting until they were beaten.
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Broken Wing wrote:Mullingar only used 4 subs so the administrative error had no impact on the result. Ashbourne spotted the error before kick off and took photos of the bench but didn't bother objecting until they were beaten.
Does this have a bearing on a game? Not sure, coaches have to fill the bench with cover for a few positions and having an extra couple of choices could have a bearing on a game. Anyone else any thoughts on this rule?
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I personally hope that Mullingar hammer them in the replay.The game is won & lost on the pitch, not on a piece of paper. I take peoples point that as 7 subs were named, Mullingar had more options, but in this case a warning or small fine should surfice. Mullingar won were it mattered, and the fact that Ashbourne were so petty to take photo's of the bench and not even mention it until they lost is unbelievable.

Take your beating Ashbourne...C'mon Mullingar in the replay
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I personally hope that Mullingar hammer them in the replay.The game is won & lost on the pitch, not on a piece of paper. I take peoples point that as 7 subs were named, Mullingar had more options, but in this case a warning or small fine should surfice. Mullingar won were it mattered, and the fact that Ashbourne were so petty to take photo's of the bench and not even mention it until they lost is unbelievable.

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is a silly mistake, but does have a bearing on the game. regardless of how many subs you use, having the option of any 5 from 6 or 7 does give you an advantage. rather than having a utility player covering 3 or 4 positions but master of none, to having your next best 9,10, & centre to pick from where needed does give you an advantage, and with so many games going down to the wire as this one did it could decide a game.

have spotted other teams doing this, maybe sticking 5 names down but clearly having 7 or 8 togged out on the bench, subs should be giving bibs and be clearly visible at all times, and everyone else should be kept behind the fence.

do agree ash were very petty about it not to mention it before the game and then to drag it up afterwards, if thats how they're going to carry on they won't be long about getting their 'come-up-ins'
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Now hold on

Mullingar players could be kitted and be pat of the team week in week out in the league and just because some rule in the cups say that you can only use 5 does this mean that you are to tell 2 players to come and just support
Granted the rule says 5 subs
but if players want to sit on "a" bench or warm up or tog out surley they cant be stoped


if a supporter wears a club jersey is he deamed to b kitted out (dont think so)

now on the other hand

It has a massive influance on the game
if you have jacks of all trades and masters of none as oppose to a team with key plays it make a huge difference
so it was a big factor in this game


I reckon its the Ref who is given the team sheet at the shart of the game and he can hand it back if there is 2 many or 2 few subs on it

if there is no exp front row he would nt start so why start with 2 many on the panel
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r e seeding wrote:Now hold on

Mullingar players could be kitted and be pat of the team week in week out in the league and just because some rule in the cups say that you can only use 5 does this mean that you are to tell 2 players to come and just support
Granted the rule says 5 subs
but if players want to sit on "a" bench or warm up or tog out surley they cant be stoped


if a supporter wears a club jersey is he deamed to b kitted out (dont think so)

now on the other hand

It has a massive influance on the game
if you have jacks of all trades and masters of none as oppose to a team with key plays it make a huge difference
so it was a big factor in this game


I reckon its the Ref who is given the team sheet at the shart of the game and he can hand it back if there is 2 many or 2 few subs on it

if there is no exp front row he would nt start so why start with 2 many on the panel
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r e seeding wrote:It has a massive influance on the game
if you have jacks of all trades and masters of none as oppose to a team with key plays it make a huge difference
so it was a big factor in this game
Objection your honour. Supposition. It may have been a factor but that has not been proven.
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