Grahamunster - Graham Rowntree's Munster 2022/2023

[naraic]

Really have to feel for Farrell. Granted I don’t have all the facts of his case, but from what I’ve heard, he is being prosecuted for something that wouldn’t be considered a crime in Ireland, but Ireland is the country that deems him as surplus to requirements.

I really believe that Farrell is a player who could have really pushed on under the Munster coaching structure, and from what I’ve heard he’s been working really hard up until a couple of weeks ago with a view to returning to action with Munster in the near future.

Munster are now minus a very good player, and will be worse off without him.

I suspect that the biggest reason for this release is that Munster can't plan for next season. His case won't be heard till sometime between September and December and Munster probably don't want to go into a new season with a maybe asterix attached to one of their centers. They needed to know. We had this discussion here recently when Fekitoa was released and were discussing if Munster needed a new signing. I said yes and someone else said no mentioning that Farrell could come back.

[ronk]

Farrells salary is cheaper than the bad press from a rape trial. It becomes a smaller deal in the press here and stops the IRFU from having to get out in front of a story or development. They can stand the crisis PR team down they don't need to risk being sued by him.

Pay him off and let him fend for himself with his next contract. He might even have offers on the table and be able to play sooner.

[Sugary tae]

Without speculating on the circumstances I wonder does it mean another signing?? Frisch and nankivell would be the expected starters. Crowley can play 12 but with Healy off I suspect he’ll only play 10. Scannell has barely played under rowntree while goggin is game but a bit back in terms of quality. There had been a rumour of jake flannery returning?
Earls n Conway are barely seen these days. Nash and daly have made the wing spots their own. Zebo is fit for pasture I suspect. Campbell looks an excellent player.

[munster#1]

Without speculating on the circumstances I wonder does it mean another signing?? Frisch and nankivell would be the expected starters. Crowley can play 12 but with Healy off I suspect he’ll only play 10. Scannell has barely played under rowntree while goggin is game but a bit back in terms of quality. There had been a rumour of jake flannery returning?
Earls n Conway are barely seen these days. Nash and daly have made the wing spots their own. Zebo is fit for pasture I suspect. Campbell looks an excellent player.

With Frisch and Nankivell Munster will have 2 centres who are close to international standard.
IMO Frisch could have slotted in for Ireland ahead of Aki and would have done better.

The problem Munster have, and you mention it also, is that there is a big drop off after these 2.
Looking further down the line, there isn’t much else coming through.

If Munster want to really compete for silverware they will need to strengthen their options in the centre.

I wouldn’t be too worried about the back 3.
Even without Earls and Conway, Munster have performed really well using Nash, Daly, Haley, Campbell and Coombes

[jezzer]

Without speculating on the circumstances I wonder does it mean another signing?? Frisch and nankivell would be the expected starters. Crowley can play 12 but with Healy off I suspect he’ll only play 10. Scannell has barely played under rowntree while goggin is game but a bit back in terms of quality. There had been a rumour of jake flannery returning?
Earls n Conway are barely seen these days. Nash and daly have made the wing spots their own. Zebo is fit for pasture I suspect. Campbell looks an excellent player.

With Frisch and Nankivell Munster will have 2 centres who are close to international standard.
IMO Frisch could have slotted in for Ireland ahead of Aki and would have done better.

The problem Munster have, and you mention it also, is that there is a big drop off after these 2.
Looking further down the line, there isn’t much else coming through.

If Munster want to really compete for silverware they will need to strengthen their options in the centre.

I wouldn’t be too worried about the back 3.
Even without Earls and Conway, Munster have performed really well using Nash, Daly, Haley, Campbell and Coombes

Connacht aren't keeping all their centres. Might be a decent bargain pickup to be had.

[munster#1]

Without speculating on the circumstances I wonder does it mean another signing?? Frisch and nankivell would be the expected starters. Crowley can play 12 but with Healy off I suspect he’ll only play 10. Scannell has barely played under rowntree while goggin is game but a bit back in terms of quality. There had been a rumour of jake flannery returning?
Earls n Conway are barely seen these days. Nash and daly have made the wing spots their own. Zebo is fit for pasture I suspect. Campbell looks an excellent player.

With Frisch and Nankivell Munster will have 2 centres who are close to international standard.
IMO Frisch could have slotted in for Ireland ahead of Aki and would have done better.

The problem Munster have, and you mention it also, is that there is a big drop off after these 2.
Looking further down the line, there isn’t much else coming through.

If Munster want to really compete for silverware they will need to strengthen their options in the centre.

I wouldn’t be too worried about the back 3.
Even without Earls and Conway, Munster have performed really well using Nash, Daly, Haley, Campbell and Coombes

Connacht aren't keeping all their centres. Might be a decent bargain pickup to be had.

Who would you add to the list of potential signings?

[sunshiner1]

Sean O'Brien of Exeter is the only one who jumps out at me in an IQ setting. Daly is rumoured to be moving who could be good but that's just rumour.

[jimbobjoe]

Bad injury profile but Peter Robb would be worth a look to get back to Ireland

[wixfjord]

Sean O'Brien of Exeter is the only one who jumps out at me in an IQ setting. Daly is rumoured to be moving who could be good but that's just rumour.

Tom Daly? That would be a good move.

Exeter's SOB hasn't been playing much this season, has he been injured?

Maybe the fabled Piers O'Connor might be back as an option.

[sunshiner1]

by wixfjord

Tom Daly? That would be a good move.

Exeter's SOB hasn't been playing much this season, has he been injured?

Maybe the fabled Piers O'Connor might be back as an option.

I thought Piers O'Connor already signed for them for next season?

[Sugary tae]

Bad injury profile but Peter Robb would be worth a look to get back to Ireland

Didn’t he retire due to injury ?

[jimbobjoe]

Bad injury profile but Peter Robb would be worth a look to get back to Ireland

Didn’t he retire due to injury ?

Playing with Ealing Trailfinders from what I can see.

[Sugary tae]

Sean O'Brien of Exeter is the only one who jumps out at me in an IQ setting. Daly is rumoured to be moving who could be good but that's just rumour.

Tom Daly? That would be a good move.

Exeter's SOB hasn't been playing much this season, has he been injured?

Maybe the fabled Piers O'Connor might be back as an option.

I remember that rumour about a month ago. He’s IQ isn’t he as well as English aussie and Welsh?? But only wants to wear white which is fair enough.
Seemed to be highly rated. Premiership player of the month and touted as an international


We do our shopping in Bloemfontein anyway

[Oldschoolsocks]

Sean O'Brien of Exeter is the only one who jumps out at me in an IQ setting. Daly is rumoured to be moving who could be good but that's just rumour.

Tom Daly? That would be a good move.

Exeter's SOB hasn't been playing much this season, has he been injured?

Maybe the fabled Piers O'Connor might be back as an option.

I remember that rumour about a month ago. He’s IQ isn’t he as well as English aussie and Welsh?? But only wants to wear white which is fair enough.
Seemed to be highly rated. Premiership player of the month and touted as an international


We do our shopping in Bloemfontein anyway

very good

[scentofgunpowder]

Sean O'Brien of Exeter is the only one who jumps out at me in an IQ setting. Daly is rumoured to be moving who could be good but that's just rumour.

Tom Daly is under contract for next season. Only centre out of contract (Bundee situation aside) is Shayne Bolton. Imo it would be a shame for such a good athlete to be lost to Irish rugby after only two years, even if his fundamentals aren't the best. Perhaps this Munster environment could be a good place to get the most out of him.

[munster#1]

Sad to hear that Tony Buckley has been added to the list of players being cases against the IRFU.

At 42, he is a very young man to be having to deal with the effects of head injuries.

He is currently working for a medical devise company in Limerick, and I had heard that he had a fairly big health scare recently, to the extent that he is lucky to be alive.

[ronk]

He may want to edit his Wikipedia page:

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Buckley confirmed his retirement from professional rugby in June 2014, but decided to continue to play rugby non-professionally with Ulster Bank League side Kanturk. Buckley said “I am lucky that I have emerged from professional rugby relatively intact and capable of enjoying my last couple of seasons with the club I started with. For now it’s back to civilian life.”

Very sorry to hear that he's having problems.

[cormac]

Munster running riot in Cork.

Looking like a long night for the Scarlets

[Dave Cahill]

The scarlets winger there summed up welsh rugby in microcosm. 'Should i come in, stay out, come in, stay out, no, I'll fall over"

[desperado]

Scarlets are shocking. Lads trippin over themselves, throwing passes at lads faces. This will be a cricket score.

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