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mildlyinterested wrote: December 15th, 2021, 2:12 pm Ringrose could learn a thing or two from Hume..
"McCluskey & Hume are demonstrating a centre partnership which is an example to other Provincial partnerships".

Rather than view either in isolation and compare them with one other individual, at this point let's just watch this partnership develop.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: December 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: December 15th, 2021, 2:12 pm Ringrose could learn a thing or two from Hume..
"McCluskey & Hume are demonstrating a centre partnership which is an example to other Provincial partnerships".

Rather than view either in isolation and compare them with one other individual, at this point let's just watch this partnership develop.
Ringrose is clearly going to be compared to Hume given they are competing for the same green jersey... Hume looks the better attacker to me and if h keeps this up Ringrose will be under a lot of pressure for his position.
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mildlyinterested wrote: December 15th, 2021, 3:11 pm
Ruckedtobits wrote: December 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: December 15th, 2021, 2:12 pm Ringrose could learn a thing or two from Hume..
"McCluskey & Hume are demonstrating a centre partnership which is an example to other Provincial partnerships".

Rather than view either in isolation and compare them with one other individual, at this point let's just watch this partnership develop.
Ringrose is clearly going to be compared to Hume given they are competing for the same green jersey... Hume looks the better attacker to me and if h keeps this up Ringrose will be under a lot of pressure for his position.
My perspective is that it is unclear whether Faz views his best partnership as Bundee and Henshaw or Henshaw and Ringer ( it certainly doesn't appear to be Bundee and Ringer). Until another exhibition like last Saturday by Hume, I believe the jury is out as to whether a pairing of Bundee and Hume or Henshaw and Hume would be more effective that McCloskey & Hume.

The latter pair certainly set the bar fairly high last weekend.
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The first part is getting clearly ahead of Chris Farrell.
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ronk wrote: December 15th, 2021, 11:02 pm The first part is getting clearly ahead of Chris Farrell.
I think you can safely say Hume is ahead of Farrell now. From an attacking perspective for sure anyway.
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Not convinced that a 6:2 split on the bench, with two second-rows named, is the ideal line-up to beat this Saints team. Admittedly McFarland knows precisely what injury doubts Ulster have going into the game but I would prefer more cover for Ulster's mid-field.
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erskinechilders wrote: December 16th, 2021, 1:41 pm
ronk wrote: December 15th, 2021, 11:02 pm The first part is getting clearly ahead of Chris Farrell.
I think you can safely say Hume is ahead of Farrell now. From an attacking perspective for sure anyway.
Farrell is living off the two games he stepped in for at the last minute and played really well. The last one of those was during the Grand Slam season, nearly 4 years ago.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote: December 16th, 2021, 4:41 pm
erskinechilders wrote: December 16th, 2021, 1:41 pm
ronk wrote: December 15th, 2021, 11:02 pm The first part is getting clearly ahead of Chris Farrell.
I think you can safely say Hume is ahead of Farrell now. From an attacking perspective for sure anyway.
Farrell is living off the two games he stepped in for at the last minute and played really well. The last one of those was during the Grand Slam season, nearly 4 years ago.
Tom Farrell should be nearer an Irish short at 13 than Chris Farrell!
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betty swallocks wrote: December 16th, 2021, 4:47 pm
LeRouxIsPHat wrote: December 16th, 2021, 4:41 pm
erskinechilders wrote: December 16th, 2021, 1:41 pm

I think you can safely say Hume is ahead of Farrell now. From an attacking perspective for sure anyway.
Farrell is living off the two games he stepped in for at the last minute and played really well. The last one of those was during the Grand Slam season, nearly 4 years ago.
Tom Farrell should be nearer an Irish short at 13 than Chris Farrell!
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Ulster go into the sheds at HT vs Northampton 19-12 up. They've three tries in the bag, but towards the end of the 1st 40 Northampton looked like they had the measure of them. Ulster could lose this, if they don't start well 2nd half....
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Marty had one of those games that makes me think he could still have a great season or two in green and help us win something. Happens every 6 months or so, I'll never learn.
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I think Hume needs a 6N start or two to let Ringer know the shirt isn't his by right. Hume's acceleration is absurd.

Tom Farrell needs a run of games to raise his hand and i doubt the 6N is a realistic goal. He's good tho.

Back on Ulster, Timoney is a bit of a VDF clone in what he brings to the table. He's a great like for like option if they rest VDF at any stage.

McIlroy is class ball in hand but he needs to flesh out his game and get more involved to be a legit option.

Lowry is a ghost, can't touch him. Lamour could learn a ton from him.
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He needs to work on his fitness (understandably) but I think Jack looks really sharp since his comeback. Very happy for him and would love to see him keep this up and have a Healyesque resurgence for Ireland.
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Tough to choose between Hume and Timoney for mom. Prob go Hume.
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Cooney, Rea, Lowry, Moore, AOC Gilroy all been very good too
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Ulster look far less effective without McCloskey
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cormac wrote: December 17th, 2021, 9:39 pm Ulster look far less effective without McCloskey
The difference has been incredible. I said the other day that himself and Hume ran the show last weekend but didn't think they'd fall apart without one of them.

Northampton have stuck in this well. Ulster's discipline let them back into it but they've been good in their own right.
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cormac wrote: December 17th, 2021, 9:39 pm Ulster look far less effective without McCloskey
Yeah, true. The SBW-lite act won't work at test level but in Europe Big Stu is still a top player.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote: December 17th, 2021, 9:44 pm
cormac wrote: December 17th, 2021, 9:39 pm Ulster look far less effective without McCloskey
The difference has been incredible. I said the other day that himself and Hume ran the show last weekend but didn't think they'd fall apart without one of them.

Northampton have stuck in this well. Ulster's discipline let them back into it but they've been good in their own right.
McCloskey's absence is keenly felt on two counts because not only is Stewart Moore not as good as him it means that Burns' mediocrity at 10 is further exposed
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Chris Boyd is a bit of a dose.
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