Munster Rugby 2021/2022 - Search for the Holy Grail

[ronk]

Knox starting the game. Hopefully this is the season where he can finally pin down the jersey and become the first team starter. He's kinda flown under the radar for the last few years but I think he's a guy who could be a big deal for Munster and Ireland.

Do you think they pressured Porter to accommodate him?

No.

[Oldschool]

Knox starting the game. Hopefully this is the season where he can finally pin down the jersey and become the first team starter. He's kinda flown under the radar for the last few years but I think he's a guy who could be a big deal for Munster and Ireland.

Will he be IQ for the 2023 RWC

[dropkick]

Knox starting the game. Hopefully this is the season where he can finally pin down the jersey and become the first team starter. He's kinda flown under the radar for the last few years but I think he's a guy who could be a big deal for Munster and Ireland.

I really hope not.

That ship has long sailed unfortunately.

[wixfjord]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

[munster#1]

Knox starting the game. Hopefully this is the season where he can finally pin down the jersey and become the first team starter. He's kinda flown under the radar for the last few years but I think he's a guy who could be a big deal for Munster and Ireland.

I really hope not.

That ship has long sailed unfortunately.

What are you basing that on?

[fourthirtythree]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

Poaching kids from abroad. If you don't see it, that's you.

[Dave Cahill]

Ah in fairness its not like they sent out the Child Catcher to lure him with gingerbread

[ronk]

Ah in fairness its not like they sent out the Child Catcher to lure him with gingerbread

Love the reference. And it's true of course.

Knox was still the most egregious case of project players. Once it was banned, there was no reason to hold back. So Munster hired the 2 more promising boys out of school and moved them around the world.

They hadn't spotted a generational talent, they were just getting a few more years out of the project player system.

I'm not as annoyed about it as many, but I can see why it hit some nerves. Knox is the best example for why to change the project player system.

[ronk]

Of course that's nothing against the lad himself.

[fourthirtythree]

Of course that's nothing against the lad himself.

At all.

Them's the rules and best of luck to him. Doesn't mean I don't think we behaved shittily.

[ronk]

Of course that's nothing against the lad himself.

At all.

Them's the rules and best of luck to him. Doesn't mean I don't think we behaved shittily.

Yeah, I'm glad we were able to get Gibson-Park and Lowe and I love watching them play. I'm also glad the rules were changed in the end.

[sunshiner1]

I can understand why people dislike how he came here but he's here and unlike the other lad he's had the mental toughness to stick it out and develop into a asset for Munster. He hasn't broken any rules and from what people say he's a good lad whose put in the effort. Like any other young lad coming through I hope he has the best career he can possibly have.

[Oldschoolsocks]

I can understand why people dislike how he came here but he's here and unlike the other lad he's had the mental toughness to stick it out and develop into a asset for Munster. He hasn't broken any rules and from what people say he's a good lad whose put in the effort. Like any other young lad coming through I hope he has the best career he can possibly have.

who's the other lad?

[wixfjord]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

Poaching kids from abroad. If you don't see it, that's you.

That's massively different to poaching project players to go into the national side is it?

I think that's a bit rich personally.

It's not like Knox was taken against his will like.

Would you say the same about Salanoa too btw?

[Dave Cahill]

I can understand why people dislike how he came here but he's here and unlike the other lad he's had the mental toughness to stick it out and develop into a asset for Munster. He hasn't broken any rules and from what people say he's a good lad whose put in the effort. Like any other young lad coming through I hope he has the best career he can possibly have.

who's the other lad?

Matt More, hes with Pumas now

[ronk]

I can understand why people dislike how he came here but he's here and unlike the other lad he's had the mental toughness to stick it out and develop into a asset for Munster. He hasn't broken any rules and from what people say he's a good lad whose put in the effort. Like any other young lad coming through I hope he has the best career he can possibly have.

I wouldn't criticise a teenager who gave up on a move to Limerick from SA. Lots of reasons why someone might find it not working out of find that it's not living up to their expectations. Knox is a tighthead, he knew he'd get 3-4 years before anyone expected him to do anything and squad age profile took all the pressure off.

Very different for a utility back.

[fourthirtythree]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

Poaching kids from abroad. If you don't see it, that's you.

That's massively different to poaching project players to go into the national side is it?

I think that's a bit rich personally.

It's not like Knox was taken against his will like.

Would you say the same about Salanoa too btw?

Yeah, it's massively different. If you can't see that I can't help you.

Salanoa upped sticks to get a career in a sport he would have to leave to get one in. Adults leaving for more money is professional sport. It's a bit cr@p that you can wave international honours to tempt them but that was the system.

[the spoofer]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

None, neither should be.

[wixfjord]

Poaching kids from abroad. If you don't see it, that's you.

That's massively different to poaching project players to go into the national side is it?

I think that's a bit rich personally.

It's not like Knox was taken against his will like.

Would you say the same about Salanoa too btw?

Yeah, it's massively different. If you can't see that I can't help you.

Salanoa upped sticks to get a career in a sport he would have to leave to get one in. Adults leaving for more money is professional sport. It's a bit cr@p that you can wave international honours to tempt them but that was the system.

Hmm, I don't think it's massively different at all. Salanoa was handpicked from a country halfway across the world and brought to Ireland to play for an Irish province and potentially the national side.

So was Knox (who was 18 when he moved).

So was Lowe.

What about lads like Wooton or other exiles who were picked to come across at a young age? Is it totally different because they have some tenuous Irish links?

[ronk]

What's the difference between Knox playing for Ireland and James Lowe?

None, neither should be.

They're both eligible for Ireland. Lowe has been good enough to get picked. Knox hasn't yet.