Munster Rugby 2021/2022 - Search for the Holy Grail
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Racist is a bit strong. Salanoa was recruited from America and isn't a product of the Leinster underage system. I think that's the reference to actual Leinster players.
Bit early to say that last year's pattern is repeating because it's just 1 game. It does look like a chance being missed.
Bit early to say that last year's pattern is repeating because it's just 1 game. It does look like a chance being missed.
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There is no need for a comment like that.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 8:13 amNice of them to get some time considering everyone ahead of them is on international rest. Probably one of the few times we'll see them this season.munster#1 wrote: ↑September 2nd, 2021, 11:04 pmOn the “Flip” side, Patterson and Osborne (actual Leinster players) are starting whereas had they stayed with Leinster they would likely be prepping for AIL action.FLIP wrote: ↑September 2nd, 2021, 9:22 pm Imagine being Salanoa and be riding pine in a preseason match which is two Munster teams playing against each other, instead of probably starting a preseason match next week for Leinster given he was higher rated than our current 3rd choice TH.
Leinster player moves directly to Munster and their career suffers non shocker.
And Salanoa was an actual Leinster player, or are you just being a bit racist now?
You my friend have gone way too far with that accusation.
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Justify how he wasn't an actual Leinster player then, seeing as he actually played for the senior side. You make a remark about how he wasn't an actual Leinster player without backing that up with why you think that, don't be surprised if other people reach conculsions about what you've said that you don't like.munster#1 wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 10:19 amThere is no need for a comment like that.
You my friend have gone way too far with that accusation.
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Becuase he didn't come through the Leinster system. I'd say that's fairly obvious.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 11:50 am
Justify how he wasn't an actual Leinster player then, seeing as he actually played for the senior side. You make a remark about how he wasn't an actual Leinster player without backing that up with why you think that, don't be surprised if other people reach conculsions about what you've said that you don't like.
I don't agree, but it's hardly a crazy point.
You're acting the eejit here with racism accusations. Cop on.
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If he played for Leinster he was a Leinster player. Saying he didn't come through the system is very close to saying he wasn't a valid player because he was foreign. Which is definitely racist. The onus is on munster#1 to explain himself as there's definitely the possibility of racism.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:07 pmBecuase he didn't come through the Leinster system. I'd say that's fairly obvious.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 11:50 am
Justify how he wasn't an actual Leinster player then, seeing as he actually played for the senior side. You make a remark about how he wasn't an actual Leinster player without backing that up with why you think that, don't be surprised if other people reach conculsions about what you've said that you don't like.
I don't agree, but it's hardly a crazy point.
You're acting the eejit here with racism accusations. Cop on.
Should people not stand up to racism when they see or suspect it?
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FWIW FLIP, it would be incredibly uncharitable to say m#1 was being racist here. A more charitable view would be that he was trying to setup some kind of gotcha, maybe to say James Ryan was actually a Munster player because he played for Munster before playing for Leinster or some other such nonsense.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:11 pmIf he played for Leinster he was a Leinster player. Saying he didn't come through the system is very close to saying he wasn't a valid player because he was foreign. Which is definitely racist. The onus is on munster#1 to explain himself as there's definitely the possibility of racism.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:07 pmBecuase he didn't come through the Leinster system. I'd say that's fairly obvious.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 11:50 am
Justify how he wasn't an actual Leinster player then, seeing as he actually played for the senior side. You make a remark about how he wasn't an actual Leinster player without backing that up with why you think that, don't be surprised if other people reach conculsions about what you've said that you don't like.
I don't agree, but it's hardly a crazy point.
You're acting the eejit here with racism accusations. Cop on.
Should people not stand up to racism when they see or suspect it?
The argument that he was referring to him not coming through the Leinster System does not hold water though, he was a Leinster player by virtue of the fact that he was contracted to and played for Leinster
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Yeah but you need to actually see it though. What you are describing is xenophobia not racism.FLIP wrote:
Saying he didn't come through the system is very close to saying he wasn't a valid player because he was foreign. Which is definitely racist. The onus is on munster#1 to explain himself as there's definitely the possibility of racism.
Should people not stand up to racism when they see or suspect it?
For the record, I don't suspect m#1 of either.
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I am glad to see sense from all other people.
My comment was not a racist comment in any way, shape or form. If someone can jump straight to racism based on that comment then it is more of a reflection of them than me.
I am not going to try to justify myself for not being a racist, as this would be a futile and dangerous discussion to enter.
I made a tongue in cheek comment as a follow up to another tongue in cheek comment made by Flip.
This discussion should be ended right now.
My comment was not a racist comment in any way, shape or form. If someone can jump straight to racism based on that comment then it is more of a reflection of them than me.
I am not going to try to justify myself for not being a racist, as this would be a futile and dangerous discussion to enter.
I made a tongue in cheek comment as a follow up to another tongue in cheek comment made by Flip.
This discussion should be ended right now.
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What a ridiculous comment. Cop on.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 8:13 amNice of them to get some time considering everyone ahead of them is on international rest. Probably one of the few times we'll see them this season.munster#1 wrote: ↑September 2nd, 2021, 11:04 pmOn the “Flip” side, Patterson and Osborne (actual Leinster players) are starting whereas had they stayed with Leinster they would likely be prepping for AIL action.FLIP wrote: ↑September 2nd, 2021, 9:22 pm Imagine being Salanoa and be riding pine in a preseason match which is two Munster teams playing against each other, instead of probably starting a preseason match next week for Leinster given he was higher rated than our current 3rd choice TH.
Leinster player moves directly to Munster and their career suffers non shocker.
And Salanoa was an actual Leinster player, orare you just being a bit racist now?
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Might be better to quit while your behind.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:11 pmIf he played for Leinster he was a Leinster player. Saying he didn't come through the system is very close to saying he wasn't a valid player because he was foreign. Which is definitely racist. The onus is on munster#1 to explain himself as there's definitely the possibility of racism.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:07 pmBecuase he didn't come through the Leinster system. I'd say that's fairly obvious.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 11:50 am
Justify how he wasn't an actual Leinster player then, seeing as he actually played for the senior side. You make a remark about how he wasn't an actual Leinster player without backing that up with why you think that, don't be surprised if other people reach conculsions about what you've said that you don't like.
I don't agree, but it's hardly a crazy point.
You're acting the eejit here with racism accusations. Cop on.
Should people not stand up to racism when they see or suspect it?
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Re: Munster Rugby 2021/2022 - Search for the Holy Grail
Apparently Salanoa had a slight injury setback earlier this week which has led him to start on the bench.
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If you're happy with racist dogwhistles then that says more about you than me.dropkick wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 1:16 pmMight be better to quit while your behind.FLIP wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2021, 12:11 pmIf he played for Leinster he was a Leinster player. Saying he didn't come through the system is very close to saying he wasn't a valid player because he was foreign. Which is definitely racist. The onus is on munster#1 to explain himself as there's definitely the possibility of racism.
Should people not stand up to racism when they see or suspect it?
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Seriously, I think you're the only one who sees the comment as being in any way racist. Every poster responding has disagreed with you and backed m#1 up. Even deco is siding with the Munster supporter here, which is a first.
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So we’re all agreed that Salanoa is an ex Leinster Player and his move down south to the Shelbyvillians looks like a poor one for him.
That’s a decent enough way to wrap up on a Friday.
So any thoughts on Mayo or Tyrone for the Sam?
That’s a decent enough way to wrap up on a Friday.
So any thoughts on Mayo or Tyrone for the Sam?
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He's just having a slow day.
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Anyway back to the rugby, the real reason Salanoa isn't starting is they want to balance the squad to avoid having Leinster B vs South African flavoured sides.
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I wasn’t at the game, but was talking to a friend who was, and the word is that Patterson had a great game and looks to be an exciting prospect.
Kendellan also had a very good game.
Kendellan also had a very good game.
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That's good to hear about Kendellan. From all I heard and read about him during the u20s, he seemed to be running the show and I expect this Munster game was another step up (?)
Hopefully he gets a bit of exposure this year, and Hodnett too - who seems to have been almost forgotten about with the emergence of Kendellan, and Coombes' great season
Hopefully he gets a bit of exposure this year, and Hodnett too - who seems to have been almost forgotten about with the emergence of Kendellan, and Coombes' great season
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Laighin Break wrote: ↑September 5th, 2021, 1:33 am That's good to hear about Kendellan. From all I heard and read about him during the u20s, he seemed to be running the show and I expect this Munster game was another step up (?)
Hopefully he gets a bit of exposure this year, and Hodnett too - who seems to have been almost forgotten about with the emergence of Kendellan, and Coombes' great season
If Kendellan can fulfil his promise, and unfortunately this is never a given, the Munster and Ireland will have a serious talent at their disposal.
He reminds me a lot of D Wallace, but Kendellan has the added talent of being a leader.
Unfortunately Hodnett had a very untimely injury last season, just as it looked like he might get a good run of games.
This could be a massive season for Hodnett. If he can remain fit, then he should see a fair few minutes.
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