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Oldschool wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:26 am
johng wrote: December 18th, 2021, 11:27 pm "if anything this fella could end up as the best back-up at No10 since Winston Churchill told poor old Nev Chamberlain to get out the door of Downing Street."

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Stopped reading after that. Was out and didn't see the game.
Coincidentally I actually had stopped reading at the point your post suggested.
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Great to register another victory in Europe’s premier competition.

Many of the Munster players haven’t played in around 2 months and this showed in the number of basic errors.

DDA was great again, as was Healy.
The Munster 9,10, 12, and 13 must be one of the most physical out there, and they really need to use that physicality to better effect.

Great to see 5 more HC debutants get a run.
Between last week’s and yesterdays games, that is a remarkable number of players getting HC exposure.
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wixfjord wrote: December 19th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:50 am
Hugh Cahill and DOC were just as bad. I thought Healy played well though. First game in over 2 months. Some compare him to Ross Byrne but hes a much better athlete than Ross Byrne is. Very calm also unlike JJ Hanrahan.
Do you reckon he’s a better athlete than Ross? Not sure I’ve seen much of that.

He’s bigger and physical defensively, but not much of an breaking threat and not very quick.
Amazing how Hugh Cahill managed to totally miss or ignore the peno kick to touch in the first 20 minutes Healy managed to miss out of going for too much length - with a Castre player catching the ball infield. Contrast how we never heard the effin end of it for days on end, when Harry's one kick to touch vs Connacht went straight out, despite brushing the whitewash!!!!!
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Huge Cahill does seem to come from the Ger Canning style of commentary where a half decent kick or play is consistently described as huge. And of course Munster players weren't just but 'super super'.

Despite continually crying about horrible and terrible the match was it came across like these were super human behemoths that were playing for Munster. And suggesting Munster, who weren't playing cohesively but were very comfortable should bring on Craig Casey to open the game up seemed extremely naive, when all Castres' main threats were coming from errors in Munster back play.
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The Examiner reporting the French sportspapers' reaction to the game: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 69292.html

I have to admit that I only knew three players on the Castres team – Urdapilleta, Jacquet and Aguillon. The rest of the names meant nothing to me. It turns out it was basically the Castres second string.
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Kidney being linked with a return to his native province as director of rugby.
This would be a very good signing imo. He is Munster through and through. He’s been there and done it, building a Munster squad from scratch and guiding them to their 2 HC wins.

His appointment will allow the next head coach to concentrate on the day to day coaching.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 7QL_m9wcec
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munster#1 wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm Kidney being linked with a return to his native province as director of rugby.
This would be a very good signing imo. He is Munster through and through. He’s been there and done it, building a Munster squad from scratch and guiding them to their 2 HC wins.

His appointment will allow the next head coach to concentrate on the day to day coaching.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 7QL_m9wcec
I really, really hope this is true 👍
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dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:50 am
johng wrote: December 18th, 2021, 11:27 pm "if anything this fella could end up as the best back-up at No10 since Winston Churchill told poor old Nev Chamberlain to get out the door of Downing Street."

[/cringe]

Stopped reading after that. Was out and didn't see the game.

Hugh Cahill and DOC were just as bad
. I thought Healy played well though. First game in over 2 months. Some compare him to Ross Byrne but hes a much better athlete than Ross Byrne is. Very calm also unlike JJ Hanrahan.
It was like they knew nothing about the Castres team. I complained in the HEC thread. DOC is usually fine but with other commentators. Christ they spent about 10 minutes just talking Munster on and off the field it was so cringe. That was an international broadcast.
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wixfjord wrote: December 19th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:50 am
Hugh Cahill and DOC were just as bad. I thought Healy played well though. First game in over 2 months. Some compare him to Ross Byrne but hes a much better athlete than Ross Byrne is. Very calm also unlike JJ Hanrahan.
Do you reckon he’s a better athlete than Ross? Not sure I’ve seen much of that.

He’s bigger and physical defensively, but not much of an breaking threat and not very quick.

Hes not lightening quick off the mark but he can raise a gallop. The biggest difference though is Ross is fairly feeble. When he goes into contact he falls like a sack of spuds. Dan Biggar isn't fast but is fairly strong. Carbery is fairly weak but he has speed and agility. Harry is an.athlete compared to Ross.
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paddyor wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:35 pm
dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:50 am
johng wrote: December 18th, 2021, 11:27 pm "if anything this fella could end up as the best back-up at No10 since Winston Churchill told poor old Nev Chamberlain to get out the door of Downing Street."

[/cringe]

Stopped reading after that. Was out and didn't see the game.

Hugh Cahill and DOC were just as bad
. I thought Healy played well though. First game in over 2 months. Some compare him to Ross Byrne but hes a much better athlete than Ross Byrne is. Very calm also unlike JJ Hanrahan.
It was like they knew nothing about the Castres team. I complained in the HEC thread. DOC is usually fine but with other commentators. Christ they spent about 10 minutes just talking Munster on and off the field it was so cringe. That was an international broadcast.
Irish commentators are very cringe. I wish they would just tell us what's happening and know that they don't need to fill every second with their voice.
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deco wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:31 pm
munster#1 wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm Kidney being linked with a return to his native province as director of rugby.
This would be a very good signing imo. He is Munster through and through. He’s been there and done it, building a Munster squad from scratch and guiding them to their 2 HC wins.

His appointment will allow the next head coach to concentrate on the day to day coaching.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 7QL_m9wcec
I really, really hope this is true 👍

So do I. Himself and Prendergast would be my choices assuming someone like Robertson is fantasy.
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dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:46 pm
deco wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:31 pm
munster#1 wrote: December 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm Kidney being linked with a return to his native province as director of rugby.
This would be a very good signing imo. He is Munster through and through. He’s been there and done it, building a Munster squad from scratch and guiding them to their 2 HC wins.

His appointment will allow the next head coach to concentrate on the day to day coaching.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 7QL_m9wcec
I really, really hope this is true 👍

So do I. Himself and Prendergast would be my choices assuming someone like Robertson is fantasy.
Having someone with Kidney’s experience on board would be essential if Predergast is your head coach.

I would also love if we could get McNamara on board or even Felix Jones
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If Kidney is an option then so is EOS.
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dropkick wrote: December 19th, 2021, 10:50 am
johng wrote: December 18th, 2021, 11:27 pm "if anything this fella could end up as the best back-up at No10 since Winston Churchill told poor old Nev Chamberlain to get out the door of Downing Street."

[/cringe]

Stopped reading after that. Was out and didn't see the game.

Hugh Cahill and DOC were just as bad. I thought Healy played well though. First game in over 2 months. Some compare him to Ross Byrne but hes a much better athlete than Ross Byrne is. Very calm also unlike JJ Hanrahan.
He’s not half the player that Ross Byrne is. Byrne is the most underrated player in Irish rugby.
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Hugh Cahill is a Munster “fan with a type writer”. If that was Leinster we would have been slaughtered.
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blockhead wrote: December 14th, 2021, 9:43 pm Bring back Kidney, throw in POC, FLA, Quinne, the dream ticket!
Called it!
Seriously though.
That would be an offal appointment. :lol:























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Munster fans wanting Kidney back? Ha ha ha ha. :lol:

Oh wait, they're actually serious, let me laugh even harder.

How did the line from our local Dave Cahill go on this? Declan Kidney is a rugby dinosaur was how it started. The Leinster supporter in me wants it to happen so Munster sink even deeper into despondency. The Ireland supporter doesn't want him anywhere near Irish rugby as he was yesterday's man more than a decade ago, which makes him beyond past it now.
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Kidney has another problem: he signed Paddy Jackson.

That's fine while he's in England, but it creates a PR minefield for giving him a big IRFU job.

Right now the IRFU don't need any more problems from that direction.
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Munster fans out there already trying to spin LI being mid table as Kidney working miracles.
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If they hire him, he's going to be asked about making an alleged rapist one of the highest paid players in the prem.

And Munster will have to own whatever answer he makes. 2nd chances, he was technically innocent, a bargain, "I didn't pay attention to any of that", nice lad and I believe him etc. Whatever answer will be unsatisfactory to some people. Is the IRFU willing to pay that price?

It's also evidence of how unsuitable he is to develop youth. He went all in on big mega-risk signings from his previous life like Jackson and Sean O'Brien.

Munster desperately need someone who can develop talent. Guys like Shane Daly have lost their way badly.
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