Munster Rugby - Semi Conscious, the Series Finale??? - 2020/21

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Dave Cahill wrote: March 29th, 2021, 3:34 pm I notice that neither of the pieces on the release of JJ or Sweetnam say that they weren't offered contracts, which is the spin being put on it.

"Due to the challenges stemming from the Covid landscape we are not in a position to hold onto a player of JJ’s calibre, and we are sorry to see him go"

"Like JJ, we were eager to retain the services of Darren beyond the current campaign, but it hasn’t been feasible"

Now, that could be taken to mean that they weren't in a posiiton to offer them a contract or it could mean that there weren't in a position to offer them a contract comensurate with their value as they decided to spunk away that money on a second rate saffer.

I think I know what seasoned Munster watches would consider to be the more likely.
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To think that Toner might be pushed out but there budget for this. Wow.

Munster already have 3 signings who are recent international locks. 2 really promising young ones too.

Joke of a club.
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hugonaut wrote: March 29th, 2021, 3:21 pm https://www.the42.ie/jason-jenkins-muns ... 9-Mar2021/

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This signing of true, makes no real sense on the face of it.

I would much rather that some money were spent on a wrecking ball front rower.

If this true, and it is worth nothing that the 42 are nothing more than a copy and paste outfit, then I suspect than there must be something else happening in the background that we are not yet privy to.

Perhaps the IRFU have demanded that Beirne plays backrow from now on, or maybe one or more of the current crop of second rows are on the move.

No point getting too worked up just yet.

It is also worth pointing out that if Toner is not offered a contract, it is because Leo decided not to, not because the money that would have went to him has been given to Munster.
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munster#1 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 4:45 pm This signing of true, makes no real sense on the face of it.

I would much rather that some money were spent on a wrecking ball front rower.

If this true, and it is worth nothing that the 42 are nothing more than a copy and paste outfit, then I suspect than there must be something else happening in the background that we are not yet privy to.

Perhaps the IRFU have demanded that Beirne plays backrow from now on, or maybe one or more of the current crop of second rows are on the move.

No point getting too worked up just yet.

It is also worth pointing out that if Toner is not offered a contract, it is because Leo decided not to, not because the money that would have went to him has been given to Munster.

That isn't remotely correct. The42 are probably the best digital sports site in the country. Murray K in particular has excellent connections.
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wixfjord wrote: March 29th, 2021, 4:47 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 4:45 pm This signing of true, makes no real sense on the face of it.

I would much rather that some money were spent on a wrecking ball front rower.

If this true, and it is worth nothing that the 42 are nothing more than a copy and paste outfit, then I suspect than there must be something else happening in the background that we are not yet privy to.

Perhaps the IRFU have demanded that Beirne plays backrow from now on, or maybe one or more of the current crop of second rows are on the move.

No point getting too worked up just yet.

It is also worth pointing out that if Toner is not offered a contract, it is because Leo decided not to, not because the money that would have went to him has been given to Munster.

That isn't remotely correct. The42 are probably the best digital sports site in the country. Murray K in particular has excellent connections.
We will have to agree to disagree here, I find that most of their content is nothing more than a copy and paste of other publish articles.

I wouldn’t be surprised if all this came from on lads tweet, as no source of this information has been referenced.
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This has Murray Kinsella's byline. I don't think it's from another site.

And yes, from yesterday a front row seems more urgent. And some coaching for your centres where the ball goes to die.
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fourthirtythree wrote: March 29th, 2021, 4:57 pm This has Murray Kinsella's byline. I don't think it's from another site.

And yes, from yesterday a front row seems more urgent. And some coaching for your centres where the ball goes to die.
Looks like the Limerick leader printed an article on this an hour before the 42.
The leader quoted the tweet in relation to this signing.
The journalist for the Leader is Colm Kinsella. Any relation?

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/spor ... d-row.html
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You're from Limerick, you must know!

I do, or have known, a fair few journalists but I don't know either of them.
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This makes no sense to me unless Snyman is leaving.
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fourthirtythree wrote: March 29th, 2021, 5:06 pm You're from Limerick, you must know!

I do, or have known, a fair few journalists but I don't know either of them.
How dare you. I am a proud Clare man.

No idea if they are related, could well be a coincidence.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote: March 29th, 2021, 5:09 pm This makes no sense to me unless Snyman is leaving.
That’s my fear. That would be devastating.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote: March 29th, 2021, 5:09 pm This makes no sense to me unless Snyman is leaving.
Talk of Snyman leaving is premature. He was dropped, that's all. He'll be back,
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Unless ther is an insurance settlement of some form associated with RG Sydman, this is the most outrageous decision facilitated by Nucifora since he was appointed and should be opposed by every Irish rugby fan.

If Munster need another very big athletic lock / 2nd Row, they should contact the Agent for Darren O'Shea (6'9", 19 st) who is currently playing gang-busters for Vannes who are top of the French ProD2 and on course for automatic promotion to the Top14.

O'Shea has started 14 out of their 17 games this season and regularly been selected by French Rugby media on the Pro D2 team of the week. At 28, he is in the prime of his rugby life and is a hard core son of Cork and Munster.

Signing a mercenary S African international second-row from a Japanese Club is the sort of behaviour expected of Montpellier or Sale not of an Irish Province with an established Academy.

Shame on you Munster and Nucifora. The very worst form of rugby development.
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good to hear on o'shea... John Madigan seemed to be going well in france too last time I checked.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: March 29th, 2021, 5:28 pm Unless ther is an insurance settlement of some form associated with RG Sydman, this is the most outrageous decision facilitated by Nucifora since he was appointed and should be opposed by every Irish rugby fan.

If Munster need another very big athletic lock / 2nd Row, they should contact the Agent for Darren O'Shea (6'9", 19 st) who is currently playing gang-busters for Vannes who are top of the French ProD2 and on course for automatic promotion to the Top14.

O'Shea has started 14 out of their 17 games this season and regularly been selected by French Rugby media on the Pro D2 team of the week. At 28, he is in the prime of his rugby life and is a hard core son of Cork and Munster.

Signing a mercenary S African international second-row from a Japanese Club is the sort of behaviour expected of Montpellier or Sale not of an Irish Province with an established Academy.

Shame on you Munster and Nucifora. The very worst form of rugby development.
It's time for IRFU Vice President, Corkman Greg Barrett to use his position and profile to object to this sort of signing.

Barrett is Munster rugby aristocracy. Played centre against the All Black's for his Province in their most famous victory. Captained Cork Constitution and led the IRFU Domestic rugby Committee for a good few years. He has the status and stature to call out this wrong use of IRFU resources at a time when players and Coaches across all Provinces are being shed due to the Covid-related squeeze on finances.

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Ruckedtobits wrote: March 29th, 2021, 6:06 pm
Ruckedtobits wrote: March 29th, 2021, 5:28 pm Unless ther is an insurance settlement of some form associated with RG Sydman, this is the most outrageous decision facilitated by Nucifora since he was appointed and should be opposed by every Irish rugby fan.

If Munster need another very big athletic lock / 2nd Row, they should contact the Agent for Darren O'Shea (6'9", 19 st) who is currently playing gang-busters for Vannes who are top of the French ProD2 and on course for automatic promotion to the Top14.

O'Shea has started 14 out of their 17 games this season and regularly been selected by French Rugby media on the Pro D2 team of the week. At 28, he is in the prime of his rugby life and is a hard core son of Cork and Munster.

Signing a mercenary S African international second-row from a Japanese Club is the sort of behaviour expected of Montpellier or Sale not of an Irish Province with an established Academy.

Shame on you Munster and Nucifora. The very worst form of rugby development.
It's time for IRFU Vice President, Corkman Greg Barrett to use his position and profile to object to this sort of signing.

Barrett is Munster rugby aristocracy. Played centre against the All Black's for his Province in their most famous victory. Captained Cork Constitution and led the IRFU Domestic rugby Committee for a good few years. He has the status and stature to call out this wrong use of IRFU resources at a time when players and Coaches across all Provinces are being shed due to the Covid-related squeeze on finances.

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Looks like a waste of private financing if that's the case.
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