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Refs aren't supposed, "supposed", to be overly familiar with the players, so they're encouraged to use the players numbers. But players, in the heat of battle, aren't listening for or reponsive to their numbers quite often. Refs don't want to be giving away penalties and stopping play all the time, so you'll hear, for example, "Leave it 9, 9 release...Conor, leave it!" to get the desired result.
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I see the latest non-Munster player has completed the media training course on how to become a ligind: "Limerick feels a bit like home' - De Allende settling well with Munster"
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Where is home? Shitholenburg?

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johng wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 8:08 am
Where is home? Shitholenburg?
Ah now, I am not from Limerick so not taking this personally, but why would you feel the need to post something like that?

With all due respect, if my 4 year old said something like that I would think he is acting childish.

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munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 10:22 am
johng wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 8:08 am
Where is home? Shitholenburg?
Ah now, I am not from Limerick so not taking this personally, but why would you feel the need to post something like that?

With all due respect, if my 4 year old said something like that I would think he is acting childish.
I had assumed he was referring to Johannesburg ??
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Been thinking about M#1 comment about getting at Sexton and I think he's right. Sexton's performance in the last defeat really set the tone for the rest of the team.
Should we start ByRne?
or Byrne?
or Frawley?
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Peg Leg wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:07 am
Been thinking about M#1 comment about getting at Sexton and I think he's right. Sexton's performance in the last defeat really set the tone for the rest of the team.
Should we start ByRne?
or Byrne?
or Frawley?
Don't start your captain (who led you to a win against the same side two weeks ago) because he got riled up a few years back?

Feck that. Let them come at J10 all they want, he's dealt with it throughout his career!

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wixfjord wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:21 am
Peg Leg wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:07 am
Been thinking about M#1 comment about getting at Sexton and I think he's right. Sexton's performance in the last defeat really set the tone for the rest of the team.
Should we start ByRne?
or Byrne?
or Frawley?
Don't start your captain (who led you to a win against the same side two weeks ago) because he got riled up a few years back?

Feck that. Let them come at J10 all they want, he's dealt with it throughout his career!
I think he is taking the p1ss?

You have to start Sexton, he is the best out half in the country, but he is prone to being thrown off his game.
If Munster can get under his skin, they could throw him off his game, and he might turn the ref against himself by constantly whining.

Again, clutching at straws looking for a positive.

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munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 12:21 pm
wixfjord wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:21 am
Peg Leg wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:07 am
Been thinking about M#1 comment about getting at Sexton and I think he's right. Sexton's performance in the last defeat really set the tone for the rest of the team.
Should we start ByRne?
or Byrne?
or Frawley?
Don't start your captain (who led you to a win against the same side two weeks ago) because he got riled up a few years back?

Feck that. Let them come at J10 all they want, he's dealt with it throughout his career!
I think he is taking the p1ss?

You have to start Sexton, he is the best out half in the country, but he is prone to being thrown off his game.
If Munster can get under his skin, they could throw him off his game, and he might turn the ref against himself by constantly whining.

Again, clutching at straws looking for a positive.
... or is now the time to give Hawkshaw his big break?
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Peg Leg wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 12:57 pm
munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 12:21 pm
wixfjord wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:21 am


Don't start your captain (who led you to a win against the same side two weeks ago) because he got riled up a few years back?

Feck that. Let them come at J10 all they want, he's dealt with it throughout his career!
I think he is taking the p1ss?

You have to start Sexton, he is the best out half in the country, but he is prone to being thrown off his game.
If Munster can get under his skin, they could throw him off his game, and he might turn the ref against himself by constantly whining.

Again, clutching at straws looking for a positive.
... or is now the time to give Hawkshaw his big break?
I take it that comment was made to illustrate irony?

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Ruckedtobits wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 4:10 pm
I take it that comment was made to illustrate irony?
The ability to identify it is sorely missed around these parts of late!
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munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 10:22 am
johng wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 8:08 am
Where is home? Shitholenburg?
Ah now, I am not from Limerick so not taking this personally, but why would you feel the need to post something like that?

With all due respect, if my 4 year old said something like that I would think he is acting childish.
Cause it's funny. To me anyway. And you're not even taking it personally so it's all good.

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johng wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 5:40 pm
munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 10:22 am
johng wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 8:08 am
Where is home? Shitholenburg?
Ah now, I am not from Limerick so not taking this personally, but why would you feel the need to post something like that?

With all due respect, if my 4 year old said something like that I would think he is acting childish.
Cause it's funny. To me anyway. And you're not even taking it personally so it's all good.
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cr@p Town?
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munster#1 wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 12:21 pm
wixfjord wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:21 am
Peg Leg wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:07 am
Been thinking about M#1 comment about getting at Sexton and I think he's right. Sexton's performance in the last defeat really set the tone for the rest of the team.
Should we start ByRne?
or Byrne?
or Frawley?
Don't start your captain (who led you to a win against the same side two weeks ago) because he got riled up a few years back?

Feck that. Let them come at J10 all they want, he's dealt with it throughout his career!
I think he is taking the p1ss?

You have to start Sexton, he is the best out half in the country, but he is prone to being thrown off his game.
If Munster can get under his skin, they could throw him off his game, and he might turn the ref against himself by constantly whining.

Again, clutching at straws looking for a positive.
We could have 5 games left this season. Sexton shouldn’t start them all.

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Dave Cahill wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 11:07 pm
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So, the 2019/20 season ended the same as the previous 8 for Munster. Trophyless.
Joke of a club.
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Radge had an interesting column in the Examiner recently, in which he wrote:
"Not every thought is red. I wonder sometimes about Leinster too. Their age profile, that ‘middle tier’ demographic. Loads of experience and plenty of freshman talent. Not so sure in between. There are perceived Leinster strengths which could be weaknesses before they know it."
[source: https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/c ... 43042.html ]

I think he's a superb analyst in general, so it was thought-provoking to hear him say that. I tend to bunch players into three, five-year age grades: young [20-24], prime [25-29] and veteran [30-34]. Unless I'm wrong, his 'middle tier' demographic refers to players between 25-29, i.e. born 1991-1995

There are 17 of those in the squad

1. Ed Byrne [b.1993] Pete Dooley [b.1994] at loosehead;
2. James Tracy* [b.1991] at hooker;
3. Tadgh Furlong*‡ [b.1992] at tighthead;
4/5. Ross Molony [b.1994] at lock
6/7/8. Jack Conan* [b.1992], Josh van der Flier* [b.1993], Dan Leavy* [b. 1994], Josh Murphy [b.1995] in the backrow;
9. Jamison Gibson-Park [b.1992] and Luke McGrath* [b.1993] at scrumhalf
10. Ross Byrne* [b.1995] at outhalf;
12/13. Robbie Henshaw*‡ [b.1993], Rory O'Loughlin* [b.1994] and Garry Ringrose* [b.1995] in the centres;
11/14/15. James Lowe [b.1992], Adam Byrne* [b.1994] and Cian Kelleher [b.1994] in the back three

I have to say that I don't know where ROG is coming from on this one. Lads like Furlong [44 Irish caps], Henshaw [43 caps], Ringrose [29 caps], van der Flier [26 caps], Luke McGrath [19 caps], Jack Conan [17 caps] and Leavy [11 caps] were pretty prominent at test level over the last three/four years.

The two areas where we look a little thin are lock [although you could put in Josh Murphy as a hybrid] and outhalf. Obviously Carbery is a Leinster product and was a loss not mitigated by "the good of Irish rugby" – becaues no f*cking good came of it – but we have Ciaran Frawley [b.1997] and Harry Byrne [b.1999] already playing regularly in the Pro14. We are even better off at lock, with James Ryan [b.1996] – the best rugby player in the country – Jack Dunne [b.1998] and Ryan Baird [b.1999] already in the mix.

It'd be something I'd be keen to see ROG expand on.

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Should be more worried about munsters...

Munsters homegrown players from last nights team split into three age groups:

30+
Billy Holland(35)
Keith Earls(32)
Stephen Archer(32)
John Ryan(32)
Conor Murray(31)
Peter O’Mahony(31)

Earls really the only player of the group performing.

Mid to late 20's
James Cronin(29)
Kevin O’Byrne(29)
JJ Hanrahan(28)
Niall Scannell(28)
Rory Scannell(26)
Jack O’Donoghue(26)

ehm...

Early 20's
Shane Daly(24)
Gavin Coombes(22)
Fineen Wycherley(22)
Craig Casey(21)

Casey could be a future star and munster captain, Daly looking very solid.. Need to see more of Coombes and time for Fineen to start consistently at 4.

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