The reported loss by Sky Sports of the USPGA to the BBC is an interesting twist. Haven't seen much about it but did note the words "widest possible audience" in one reported comment.Ruckedtobits wrote:
If TV is the paymaster of NH rugby, we should all be aware of the turmoil going on in the major Networks as technology changes and bored couch potatoes vote with their remotes and desert cable sports channels in droves - in every country - and download their programmes directly from the Web. Watch this space.
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With increased interest / focus on a Pro 14 with SA teams, it may lessen the attractiveness of the Champions Cup. When the English and French club owners killed the HCup, one threat was to walk away from European cup rugby - leaving the Celts high and dry. A successful Pro14 could really strengthen the NH Unions hands.
It may take a few ifs:
If FIR can make new zerbe more competitive
If the 2 SA teams are at a level equal to the top Pro 12 teams
If the conference system does not confuse all the fans
The Pro 14 could end up the premier rugby competition, and as Ruckedtobits said the money model is changing.
It may take a few ifs:
If FIR can make new zerbe more competitive
If the 2 SA teams are at a level equal to the top Pro 12 teams
If the conference system does not confuse all the fans
The Pro 14 could end up the premier rugby competition, and as Ruckedtobits said the money model is changing.
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BeIn has been a disaster in France for French rugby, Challenge Cup games on free TV are getting 10 times the viewers that Champions Cup games are
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Can't remember which thread this was discussed in recently, but I see that Leinster are now looking for a new Head of Commercial and Marketing.
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Again?LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Can't remember which thread this was discussed in recently, but I see that Leinster are now looking for a new Head of Commercial and Marketing.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Can't remember which thread this was discussed in recently, but I see that Leinster are now looking for a new Head of Commercial and Marketing.
Yep, the current, convservative, approach simply hasn't worked
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Marketing is not in a good place in Ireland given the run up to 2008 laziness and the fact that funding got axed post 2008. It's governed by fear in terms of the work that's produced which is often functional and dull and in terms of the investment. Businesses are being run by financial directors and marketing is seen as a cost whereas in reality on the brands I've worked on I know that if I invest €1 I get €10-12 back.Dave Cahill wrote:LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Can't remember which thread this was discussed in recently, but I see that Leinster are now looking for a new Head of Commercial and Marketing.
Yep, the current, convservative, approach simply hasn't worked
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This ties in with what I had originally heard was discussed at Club meetings.Ruckedtobits wrote:
Another rumour he picked up from SA blogs is no PRO14 games in S Africa during Dec and Jan
Various suggestions as to why, include:
1. High-season travel & Hotel costs - Squads and travellers - in SA;
2. Climatic conditions excessive for NH players, especially in Bloomfontein;
3. Logical for both SA teams to base themselves in NH for a block of (away) games, max 5 weeks, due to combination of reduced travel risks, getting familiarity with ground conditions, building up fan base in NH, etc.
All sounds pretty logical IMO. Really looking forward to seeing the details as it sounds like a lot of fundamentals have been reviewed from the perspective of the learnings through Super Rugby re travel, climatic differences, kick-off times, seasonal variations etc.
14 team full league with say Leinster and Ulster going to SA and playing both SA sides on consecutive weekends then during their summer they would head over here and play a mini tour of the Irish sides and perhaps also the Scots or Italians. The conference system chucks that all on its head though as you would have one side in your conference and then a 50:50 chance the other will be an away match.
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Zebre might be a mess at the moment but Treviso have a good squad available next season. If they can change their attitude they might have a decent season.
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make of this what you will but Kings seem to have lost 5 starters already (in announced transfers)
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And at least one of their coaches.simonokeeffe wrote:make of this what you will but Kings seem to have lost 5 starters already (in announced transfers)
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Does this also mean the end of the "Destination Final" for the league? Especially with the (currently far fetched) talk of even further expansion..
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Id say it entrenches it due to increased chance of no away fans. Just they wont rotate itDexter wrote:Does this also mean the end of the "Destination Final" for the league? Especially with the (currently far fetched) talk of even further expansion..
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Not to be overly cynical but thats largely a doddle of a group
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You think? As long as it's in always in LR that's fine.. otherwise its a pile of poo.simonokeeffe wrote:Id say it entrenches it due to increased chance of no away fans. Just they wont rotate itDexter wrote:Does this also mean the end of the "Destination Final" for the league? Especially with the (currently far fetched) talk of even further expansion..
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Yeah they dont want a final in SA at all and are still relying on one Irish team in any final to fill the ground, no offence to the prospects of an all Welsh finalDexter wrote:You think? As long as it's in always in LR that's fine.. otherwise its a pile of poo.simonokeeffe wrote:Id say it entrenches it due to increased chance of no away fans. Just they wont rotate itDexter wrote:Does this also mean the end of the "Destination Final" for the league? Especially with the (currently far fetched) talk of even further expansion..
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Conference idea is awful. For the multitudes that aren't massive fans, it's too complicated. People just want to know that their team is first or fifth or second last or whatever.
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CiaranIrl wrote:Conference idea is awful. For the multitudes that aren't massive fans, it's too complicated. People just want to know that their team is first or fifth or second last or whatever.
People have no complaints about the champions cup with its 5 groups of 6 teams. This is far easier to understand.
Not to mention I never heard much complaining about the extremely unfair draw for the semi finals in the Heineken cup.
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Totally different to a conference system though as a league. The European pool system is more or less knockout rugby from the first matchdropkick wrote:CiaranIrl wrote:Conference idea is awful. For the multitudes that aren't massive fans, it's too complicated. People just want to know that their team is first or fifth or second last or whatever.
People have no complaints about the champions cup with its 5 groups of 6 teams. This is far easier to understand.
Not to mention I never heard much complaining about the extremely unfair draw for the semi finals in the Heineken cup.