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hugonaut wrote:
munster#1 wrote: I agree, but i also think we are not far from a great performance. Which might not come with the 6n around the corner.

I also think it is worth mentioning that munster went out in the group stages for the first time since 98 last season, but managed to be the first team to qualify for a qf this season. All while rebuilding and suffering from many injuries. So credit where it is due, fair play munster
Agree on the second point - very good accomplishment.

Disagree on the first point. I can't see anything to suggest that a big improvement or a big performance is around the corner. That was a weak Castres team, and Munster only managed two tries against them at home. They've only scored five tries in their three home games, which is pretty ordinary stuff.
Turns out you were wrong hugo. The passes that have been dropped over the last few weeks went to hand, which resulted in a 5 try performance. As i said before, munster have looked dangerous going forward, they have made a fair few breaks only for the basics to let them down. If we can work on those little things then we have the ability to play like that every game.

With jones, wally and sherry back for the knock outs we will be stronger. I would also like to see a big signing in the next couple of weeks, the financial boost of a home quarter and possibly semi should more than cover it.

I fancy our chances against ulster if we don't get too badly hit by injuries in the mean time.

I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

Great result for munster, when you consider last season along with the massive change in squad over the last few months, lots of people predicted a long rebuilding process. I doubt anyone predicted what has happend
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I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

The semi featuring Ulster or Munster will be played at the Aviva.

Indeed if they thought they'd get away with it, Munster Rugby would play the quarter there too, money is such a seductive mistress these days. They wouldn't get away with it though.
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munster#1 wrote:
I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

The semi featuring Ulster or Munster will be played at the Aviva.

Indeed if they thought they'd get away with it, Munster Rugby would play the quarter there too, money is such a seductive mistress these days. They wouldn't get away with it though.
Very big statement by you, but very little behind it.
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The IRFU and not the MB get the gate receipts for the HEC-Semis, and I just cannot see Mick Kearney of the Lansdowne F.C. Mafia allowing the game to be played anywhere outside his own backyard... :wink:
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munster#1 wrote:
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munster#1 wrote:
I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

The semi featuring Ulster or Munster will be played at the Aviva.

Indeed if they thought they'd get away with it, Munster Rugby would play the quarter there too, money is such a seductive mistress these days. They wouldn't get away with it though.
Very big statement by you, but very little behind it.
As opposed to the wealth of documentary evidence you provided for the nigh on annual gaelic grounds canard?

But if you want to believe that Munster Rugby haven't looked at a venue that will provide 1.5 million euro in match day revenue alone, without taking into account the ERC bonus for moving the game to a larger stadium, or the other commercial opportunities that the Aviva provides, then you must think they're awful eejits. It won't happen, but it will most certainly be examined.

The semi final will be played in the Aviva.
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I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

You hear wrong.
It will be played in the Capital & Dublin's economy will benefit from an additional 50,000 plus supporters who will flow in and pump 20million+ into the local economy
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Dave Cahill wrote:
munster#1 wrote:
I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

The semi featuring Ulster or Munster will be played at the Aviva.

Indeed if they thought they'd get away with it, Munster Rugby would play the quarter there too, money is such a seductive mistress these days. They wouldn't get away with it though.
QF will be at Thomond and always was going to be - it was moved before (in 2006) before the redvelopment of Thomond. Possible semi final in Gaelic Grounds will not happen, simple as

So Dave you are wrong but Munster#1 - you are far more wrong

Also Scott - vast majority of that 50,000 (whether its Ulster or Munster) will go up and down in a day - biggest benefactors will be petrol stations on the Cork/Limerick/Belfast road - the days of thousands staying up (like say 2004 or 2006 in particular) is gone
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Scott wrote:

You hear wrong.
It will be played in Skanger City, whose economy will benefit from an additional 50,000 plus supporters who will be mugged, viciously assaulted and possibly murdered
Fixed that for you... :lol:
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DP... :idea: :arrow: :(
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Scott wrote:It will be played in the Capital & Dublin's economy will benefit from an additional 50,000 plus supporters who will flow in and pump 20million+ into the local economy
Can't see Ulster and Edinburgh bringing that many to be honest.
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Broken Wing wrote:
Scott wrote:It will be played in the Capital & Dublin's economy will benefit from an additional 50,000 plus supporters who will flow in and pump 20million+ into the local economy
Can't see Ulster and Edinburgh bringing that many to be honest.
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munster#1 wrote:
hugonaut wrote:
munster#1 wrote: I agree, but i also think we are not far from a great performance. Which might not come with the 6n around the corner.

I also think it is worth mentioning that munster went out in the group stages for the first time since 98 last season, but managed to be the first team to qualify for a qf this season. All while rebuilding and suffering from many injuries. So credit where it is due, fair play munster
Agree on the second point - very good accomplishment.

Disagree on the first point. I can't see anything to suggest that a big improvement or a big performance is around the corner. That was a weak Castres team, and Munster only managed two tries against them at home. They've only scored five tries in their three home games, which is pretty ordinary stuff.
Turns out you were wrong hugo. The passes that have been dropped over the last few weeks went to hand, which resulted in a 5 try performance. As i said before, munster have looked dangerous going forward, they have made a fair few breaks only for the basics to let them down. If we can work on those little things then we have the ability to play like that every game.

With jones, wally and sherry back for the knock outs we will be stronger. I would also like to see a big signing in the next couple of weeks, the financial boost of a home quarter and possibly semi should more than cover it.

I fancy our chances against ulster if we don't get too badly hit by injuries in the mean time.

I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

Great result for munster, when you consider last season along with the massive change in squad over the last few months, lots of people predicted a long rebuilding process. I doubt anyone predicted what has happend
I was indeed wrong! Hold my hands up to that one, didn't see it coming at all.

On the other hand, I think you've gone too far the other side with the 'we have the ability to play like that every game' chat! Let me read you your horoscope: you're not going to play like that every game. Munster, Leinster and Ulster have all had huge one-off performances in the HEC against English clubs this year: us against Bath in December [52-17], Ulster vs Leicester in January [41-7] and now Munster vs Northampton [51-36] ... with a mixed cup and league campaign and international breaks, it's unfortunately impossible to carry through momentum satisfactorily.
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hugonaut wrote:
. Munster, Leinster and Ulster have all had huge one-off performances in the HEC against English clubs this year: us against Bath in December [52-17], Ulster vs Leicester in January [41-7] and now Munster vs Northampton [51-36] ... with a mixed cup and league campaign and international breaks, it's unfortunately impossible to carry through momentum satisfactorily.
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hugo i said munster have the ability to play like that every game, hardly the same as saying that we will play like that every game. Imo munster have a good chance of pushing on from here and are in with a very good shot of making the final.

That munster team is very new and is missing a few players, so with time they can get better with games.

I am a glass is half full type, so imo munster are only one big signing and the return of a few players from being a very good side
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Golf Man wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:
munster#1 wrote:
I hear the gaelic grounds is being looked at for a possible ground for the semi, which would be a big asset to munster.

The semi featuring Ulster or Munster will be played at the Aviva.

Indeed if they thought they'd get away with it, Munster Rugby would play the quarter there too, money is such a seductive mistress these days. They wouldn't get away with it though.
QF will be at Thomond and always was going to be - it was moved before (in 2006) before the redvelopment of Thomond. Possible semi final in Gaelic Grounds will not happen, simple as

So Dave you are wrong but Munster#1 - you are far more wrong

Also Scott - vast majority of that 50,000 (whether its Ulster or Munster) will go up and down in a day - biggest benefactors will be petrol stations on the Cork/Limerick/Belfast road - the days of thousands staying up (like say 2004 or 2006 in particular) is gone
I am not wrong, the gaelic grounds is being looked at as a possibility.
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But Dave is right, a QF in Aviva would sellout and make a lot more money for Munster. We all know that won't happen though.

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Apocrypha wrote:The IRFU and not the MB get the gate receipts for the HEC-Semis, and I just cannot see Mick Kearney of the Lansdowne F.C. Mafia allowing the game to be played anywhere outside his own backyard... :wink:

the ERC get the gate receipts for the semi finals not the IRFU - the IRFU would get money through renting the Aviva to the ERC.

The IRFU also take a very decent cut of the gate receipts from each province for the QF's and Leinster will also be charged rent for using the Aviva.
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munster#1 wrote:hugo i said munster have the ability to play like that every game, hardly the same as saying that we will play like that every game. Imo munster have a good chance of pushing on from here and are in with a very good shot of making the final.

That munster team is very new and is missing a few players, so with time they can get better with games.

I am a glass is half full type, so imo munster are only one big signing and the return of a few players from being a very good side
No offense chief, but why bother saying anything at all then? Seriously?

Every team, in theory, has the 'ability to play like [their best performance of the season] in every game'. It's a next-to meaningless statement. They don't go out and do it.
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Apocrypha wrote:
Scott wrote:

You hear wrong.
It will be played in Skanger City, whose economy will benefit from an additional 50,000 plus supporters who will be mugged, viciously assaulted and possibly murdered
Fixed that for you... :lol:
Apocrypha, how many times do you have to be told that the semi-final will not be played in Limerick....
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hugonaut wrote:
munster#1 wrote:hugo i said munster have the ability to play like that every game, hardly the same as saying that we will play like that every game. Imo munster have a good chance of pushing on from here and are in with a very good shot of making the final.

That munster team is very new and is missing a few players, so with time they can get better with games.

I am a glass is half full type, so imo munster are only one big signing and the return of a few players from being a very good side
No offense chief, but why bother saying anything at all then? Seriously?

Every team, in theory, has the 'ability to play like [their best performance of the season] in every game'. It's a next-to meaningless statement. They don't go out and do it.
but, but, but,... it sounds positive. He wouldn't call himself Munster's number 1 (fan) if he didn't get caught in the moment.
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