Munster 2023/2024 - Return of the Jedi????

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Would definitely agree with the comment re not able to turn props into props 😂. We’ve an insanely poor record on front row development in the last 15 years.
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Matt Gallagher going to Benetton it seems.

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Wonder who they'll go for instead.
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offshorerules wrote: February 12th, 2024, 11:51 am Wonder who they'll go for instead.
I assume that means kilgannon instead. Both himself and Gallagher seemed to have been sounded out. Both similiar big injury prone. Buying at dealz rather than m and s

Fwiw I think there’s a very high ceiling on Ben o Connor. Give him a year or two and I think he’ll be our 15.
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The likes of JOD and Coombes and ahern will typically get games when internationals are away. You can only drop in so many young lads.
JOD should be moved on soon as he is only URC level. Yes he is an elder statesman but the difference between him and Coombes and Ahern is fairly big.
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sunshiner1 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 1:00 pm
by Sugary tae

The likes of JOD and Coombes and ahern will typically get games when internationals are away. You can only drop in so many young lads.
JOD should be moved on soon as he is only URC level. Yes he is an elder statesman but the difference between him and Coombes and Ahern is fairly big.
Munster are stocked now with backrows, but it can change quickly.

JOD has another year on his contract: Daly, O'Sullivan and Hurley don't. POM is looking like he's off too.

8 backrows sounds plenty but they could lose 4 by the summer. Other than POM they have younger talent who should be ahead of those players soon or already.

JOD plays every week and is versatile, Munster actually prefer not having internationals if they have to pay for them, so there's no rush to cut him. Whereas if they cut him too (they'd have to trade him) they'd struggle to fill their squad, especially with so many younger players. He might also be needed to captain a few games.
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Good point. Of the three who are up I'd hang on to O'Sullivan always thought he was good when I saw him.
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Sugary tae wrote: February 12th, 2024, 12:35 pm
offshorerules wrote: February 12th, 2024, 11:51 am Wonder who they'll go for instead.
I assume that means kilgannon instead. Both himself and Gallagher seemed to have been sounded out. Both similiar big injury prone. Buying at dealz rather than m and s

Fwiw I think there’s a very high ceiling on Ben o Connor. Give him a year or two and I think he’ll be our 15.
Yea he looked good, like a proper full back. That said Keenan doesn't look like a rugby player never mind a full back so I could be talking tosh (again) ;)
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Jod is an excellent player to have around though. Covers 6/7/8 bar this season has had a decent injury profile. Captain regularly when internationals away.

Jos is a decent player but the injury profile is very poor. He’s never really been fit for the times when he would get the games to push on. Ultimately a bit small/lightweight for the 8 position. By all accounts he’s leaving


Ben o Connor has a lot of defensive read flaws….i have actually seen him in more hurling games than rugby and I’d imagine those are kinks that can be ironed out. Would have played a lot at 10 underage. Learning the role. However he’s brave sizeable good pace and an absolute howitzer of a boot.
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https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2024/02/12/ ... -scarlets/
Roman Salanoa (knee), who had surgery at the end of last season, had a surgical procedure yesterday and will begin rehabilitation with the medical department.

Think that can be filed in with the "Very not good news" drawer. That's a lot of injuries for Salanoa and not a lot of game time at all in his career outside of last season.
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Sugary tae wrote: February 12th, 2024, 2:18 pm
Ben o Connor has a lot of defensive read flaws….i have actually seen him in more hurling games than rugby and I’d imagine those are kinks that can be ironed out. Would have played a lot at 10 underage. Learning the role. However he’s brave sizeable good pace and an absolute howitzer of a boot.
His defence is however at a fairly low level - ask the Italian No 14 last Friday.
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Colmodon wrote: February 12th, 2024, 4:58 pm https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2024/02/12/ ... -scarlets/
Roman Salanoa (knee), who had surgery at the end of last season, had a surgical procedure yesterday and will begin rehabilitation with the medical department.

Think that can be filed in with the "Very not good news" drawer. That's a lot of injuries for Salanoa and not a lot of game time at all in his career outside of last season.
Conor Murray, Jeremy Loughman and Oli Jager have all been released from international duty for the game and are available for selection.
Loughman is interesting since he played at the weekend. Would make me think that Larmour could be released also, unless Faz sees a role for him against Wales.
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Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
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sunshiner1 wrote: February 13th, 2024, 2:28 pm Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
Makes sense for Daly to get out of Connacht - with Aki/Forde/Farrell/Jennings/Gavin/Hawkshaw there is plenty of competition in the centres and not sure he's had much of a look in. Munster would be a terrible move for him tho.
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Colmodon wrote: February 13th, 2024, 3:56 pm
sunshiner1 wrote: February 13th, 2024, 2:28 pm Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
Makes sense for Daly to get out of Connacht - with Aki/Forde/Farrell/Jennings/Gavin/Hawkshaw there is plenty of competition in the centres and not sure he's had much of a look in. Munster would be a terrible move for him tho.
He's 30 and Connacht don't pay well. If he has an offer in Munster but not in Connacht, especially if it's a 2 year deal, then it's an easy move.

Munster like centres, especially experienced 16st+ ones who didn't learn the game in Munster.

Daly wore 22 mostly last year, he was outhalf cover. That gets him in matchday squads in Munster.
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sunshiner1 wrote: February 13th, 2024, 2:28 pm Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
Michael Kiernan is available.
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offshorerules wrote: February 13th, 2024, 7:18 pm
sunshiner1 wrote: February 13th, 2024, 2:28 pm Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
Michael Kiernan is available.
And then there's Gavin Mullin
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ustix wrote: February 13th, 2024, 7:49 pm
offshorerules wrote: February 13th, 2024, 7:18 pm
sunshiner1 wrote: February 13th, 2024, 2:28 pm Runours that Munster are talking to Tom Daly. I'm sure everyone here is shocked that Munster are trying to sign a center.
Michael Kiernan is available.
And then there's Gavin Mullin
I think Kiernan might be a better fit along with Finn, they can interchange on the wing and they were the last good centre's to be produced by Munster.
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He's 30 and Connacht don't pay well. If he has an offer in Munster but not in Connacht, especially if it's a 2 year deal, then it's an easy move.

Munster like centres, especially experienced 16st+ ones who didn't learn the game in Munster.

Daly wore 22 mostly last year, he was outhalf cover. That gets him in matchday squads in Munster.
I was thinking the same. With Carberry gone he's an easy and cheap option that slots right in and let's them spend money on more pressing positions.
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Also with Zebo at 32 and seemingly quite injury prone you would wonder how much longer he will be around.
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