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Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
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He asked for a 5 year contract as an assistant coach. He had to tell people in an interview that he was interested in the job for the public to notice that he had any ambitions at all.

Not sure where the ambition thing comes from.
The flip side of that is saying he backed himself to get a 5 year contract and publicly declared that he wanted to be a Head Coach putting his hat in the ring.
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No every coach's trajectory is to head coach. Some are excellent unit coaches/attack/defence and want to remain and perfect that.
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Morf wrote: January 18th, 2022, 7:32 pm No every coach's trajectory is to head coach. Some are excellent unit coaches/attack/defence and want to remain and perfect that.
Birch has written and spoken a couple of times about how much easier it is to be an assistant coach. You can have a better relationship with the players because you don't have to pick the team or decide contracts and overall it is a far less pressurised job.
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munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
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elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
I said that I heard that they were courting him and having discussions. No that he was going to Munster.

I also said that there was nothing confirmed in writing just something that I heard.

From what I’ve seen, it does appear that Munster did approach him, but it also turns out that I heard this information after he had already signed a new contract with Leinster.

Sorry if I offended you.
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munster#1 wrote: January 6th, 2022, 10:07 am Rumours doing the rounds down here that there are discussions ongoing to have Sheehan move to Munster for next season.
You posted that on January 6th.

Dan Sheehan had decided to stay at Leinster before Christmas. He had already sat down with Munster before Christmas.

So how were there “discussions ongoing” on January 6th? Munster would have known that Sheehan had signed a two year extension with Leinster.
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elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 11:21 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 6th, 2022, 10:07 am Rumours doing the rounds down here that there are discussions ongoing to have Sheehan move to Munster for next season.
You posted that on January 6th.

Dan Sheehan had decided to stay at Leinster before Christmas. He had already sat down with Munster before Christmas.

So how were there “discussions ongoing” on January 6th? Munster would have known that Sheehan had signed a two year extension with Leinster.
I suspect the answer is either
1: the rumour was wrong
2: Munster were told they could still try to entice the young hooker down south even after he had signed is contract
OR my favourite
c: Sheehan and Cullen knowing that the deal had been signed decided to troll the Munster lads and "granted them an audience"


there's always the possibility that people's timelines were just off, but that's not as much fun
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hugonaut wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:12 pm
Morf wrote: January 18th, 2022, 7:32 pm No every coach's trajectory is to head coach. Some are excellent unit coaches/attack/defence and want to remain and perfect that.
Birch has written and spoken a couple of times about how much easier it is to be an assistant coach. You can have a better relationship with the players because you don't have to pick the team or decide contracts and overall it is a far less pressurised job.
It's a relatively common thing in soccer that coaches who are good at it and enjoy it remain first team coaches and never catch the publicity and flack from being up front. I can completely understand that but it seems somewhat less accepted in rugby.
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elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 11:21 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 6th, 2022, 10:07 am Rumours doing the rounds down here that there are discussions ongoing to have Sheehan move to Munster for next season.
You posted that on January 6th.

Dan Sheehan had decided to stay at Leinster before Christmas. He had already sat down with Munster before Christmas.

So how were there “discussions ongoing” on January 6th? Munster would have known that Sheehan had signed a two year extension with Leinster.
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Laighin Break wrote: January 19th, 2022, 7:42 am
elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 11:21 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 6th, 2022, 10:07 am Rumours doing the rounds down here that there are discussions ongoing to have Sheehan move to Munster for next season.
You posted that on January 6th.

Dan Sheehan had decided to stay at Leinster before Christmas. He had already sat down with Munster before Christmas.

So how were there “discussions ongoing” on January 6th? Munster would have known that Sheehan had signed a two year extension with Leinster.
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Sometimes rumours take time to spread. M#1 probably got his from a lad who heard it from a lad who heard from a lad who heard it from a guy. And it was old news when he heard it.
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In fairness, the first that anyone 'outside the bubble', as it were, heard about the new contract was on Sunday in the Sunday Times
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elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am
elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am
elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
Without trying to get into a p1ssing contest, as I know that the 4 provinces are not at the exact same level, with each province signing a different number of players based on their needs.

But if anything, Leinster’s rumoured clearout of local locks whilst searching the planet for an international standard lock highlights that no team is above this practice.

Additionally, if you look across the Leinster squad, and I only mention Leinster as your post appears to suggest that Leinster are above this practice, you can see that there are a number of players from outside the Leinster academy currently on Leinster’s books.

Leinster currently have the lowest number of signings on their books and deserve massive credit for this, but to suggest that they don’t sign any players from other provinces or from abroad would be inaccurate.
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am
elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm
munster#1 wrote: January 18th, 2022, 2:15 pm Here’s hoping that Munster will get some shiny new toys along with their new coaching ticket.

As mentioned already, it would be great if Munster can nail down an international TH and inside centre to really bolster their squad.
How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
it’s called the“there’s a shiny thing over there syndrome”
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Oldschoolsocks wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:33 pm
RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am
elephantman wrote: January 18th, 2022, 9:16 pm

How could you be hearing rumours on January 6th about Sheehan going to Munster when his future was sorted out before Christmas?

Bit odd. Bizarre even.
What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
it’s called the“there’s a shiny thing over there syndrome”
Ah like, when you'd be playing against Clongowes back in the day and see their swimming pool. You'd immediately covet it, even though you weren't a fair swimmer so wouldn't be using it properly

Not you personally OSS, I haven't a clue what level swimmer you are :lol:
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:42 pm
Oldschoolsocks wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:33 pm
RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
it’s called the“there’s a shiny thing over there syndrome”
Ah like, when you'd be playing against Clongowes back in the day and see their swimming pool. You'd immediately covet it, even though you weren't a fair swimmer so wouldn't be using it properly

Not you personally OSS, I haven't a clue what level swimmer you are :lol:
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:42 pm
Oldschoolsocks wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:33 pm
RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am

What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
it’s called the“there’s a shiny thing over there syndrome”
Ah like, when you'd be playing against Clongowes back in the day and see their swimming pool. You'd immediately covet it, even though you weren't a fair swimmer so wouldn't be using it properly

Not you personally OSS, I haven't a clue what level swimmer you are :lol:
Newpark and Marian College have pools...
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RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:42 pm
Oldschoolsocks wrote: January 19th, 2022, 12:33 pm
RoboProp wrote: January 19th, 2022, 11:13 am

What I find funny is that the other provinces view Leinster's production line of players as the answer to their problems, that or signing big name NIQs.
it’s called the“there’s a shiny thing over there syndrome”
Ah like, when you'd be playing against Clongowes back in the day and see their swimming pool. You'd immediately covet it, even though you weren't a fair swimmer so wouldn't be using it properly

Not you personally OSS, I haven't a clue what level swimmer you are :lol:
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