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mildlyinterested wrote: March 15th, 2023, 8:15 pm
hugonaut wrote: March 15th, 2023, 7:58 pm
wixfjord wrote: March 11th, 2023, 3:12 pm I don't think i've seen an U20 as obviously prepared for test rugby since Porter.
Both his parents are former army officers. His old man is former 2 i/c of the Army Ranger Wing. We had good results from the last lad with that sort of lineage!
Hopefully he sticks with leinster, temptation to join his brother has to be there.

Will be a big shame if leinster overlooked cian for soroka and both soroka and 2 prendergasts end up elsewhere a few years down the line.
Think Leinster will do all in their power to keep him. Already seems like we've given him an academy contract early and had him as 24th man at Gloucester. Think we should send him down to South Africa and give him game time(maybe even a start). Show that he is really valued and will get minutes next season. Can't be risking talents like him making a name elsewhere IMO. If we do that and he leaves fair enough, but think we should be proactive.
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Are there any substantial indications that Soroka may be moving to Munster?

Or is this just someone got it in their heads that he might go to Munster because he’s from Cork, and he’s not getting a look in at Leinster?
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munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:39 pm Are there any substantial indications that Soroka may be moving to Munster?

Or is this just someone got it in their heads that he might go to Munster because he’s from Cork, and he’s not getting a look in at Leinster?
he isnt from Cork.
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mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:39 pm Are there any substantial indications that Soroka may be moving to Munster?

Or is this just someone got it in their heads that he might go to Munster because he’s from Cork, and he’s not getting a look in at Leinster?
he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
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munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:39 pm Are there any substantial indications that Soroka may be moving to Munster?

Or is this just someone got it in their heads that he might go to Munster because he’s from Cork, and he’s not getting a look in at Leinster?
he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
Do you think if you are born somewhere and leave while still an infant, you are from that place? That's a weird belief if so.

What if you're born on a plane? Are you from a plane? I have a couple of cousins that grew up in Cork but were born in the national maternity hospital. Are they from Dublin? They'll be disappointed to learn that.
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One of my best friends was born in Cork and spent the first year of his life there, then the rest of it in Dublin, and he's a 100% Munster fan. I kind of suspect he just does it to wind the rest of us up.
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CiaranIrl wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:30 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm

he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
Do you think if you are born somewhere and leave while still an infant, you are from that place? That's a weird belief if so.

What if you're born on a plane? Are you from a plane? I have a couple of cousins that grew up in Cork but were born in the national maternity hospital. Are they from Dublin? They'll be disappointed to learn that.
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The Duke of Wellington rather nastily put it.
"Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse" or words to that effect.
The Duke didn't like the fact that he was born in Ireland apparently.
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Oldschool wrote: March 16th, 2023, 5:15 pm The Duke of Wellington rather nastily put it.
"Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse" or words to that effect.
The Duke didn't like the fact that he was born in Ireland apparently.
AIUI, that's a scurrlious rumour spread by Daniel O'Connell and co to tarnish him. There was plenty of Irish in the empires service right up until WW1 and they weren't ashamed of their Irish heritage(e.g. Field Marshall French)
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I prefer the Cork version.

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munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:39 pm Are there any substantial indications that Soroka may be moving to Munster?

Or is this just someone got it in their heads that he might go to Munster because he’s from Cork, and he’s not getting a look in at Leinster?
he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
He is not.
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paddyor wrote: March 16th, 2023, 5:38 pm
Oldschool wrote: March 16th, 2023, 5:15 pm The Duke of Wellington rather nastily put it.
"Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse" or words to that effect.
The Duke didn't like the fact that he was born in Ireland apparently.
AIUI, that's a scurrlious rumour spread by Daniel O'Connell and co to tarnish him. There was plenty of Irish in the empires service right up until WW1 and they weren't ashamed of their Irish heritage(e.g. Field Marshall French)
Looks like you read the same link as moi. :wink:
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Oldschool wrote:The Duke of Wellington rather nastily put it.
"Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse" or words to that effect.
The Duke didn't like the fact that he was born in Ireland apparently.
In fairness to the Duke, he was from Kells.
Most people woukd deny that.

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mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 6:00 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm

he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
He is not.
Is Doris Mayo?
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pangurban1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 8:31 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 6:00 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm

Yes he is.
He is not.
Is Doris Mayo?
From Lacken and went to school there, right?

Apparently came to Dublin at age 12. So no…
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Oldschoolsocks wrote: March 16th, 2023, 8:49 pm
pangurban1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 8:31 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 6:00 pm

He is not.
Is Doris Mayo?
From Lacken and went to school there, right?

Apparently came to Dublin at age 12. So no…
His Ma & Da are Dubs, went to Mayo to setup a practice, young Doris was sent to Dublin to be ejimicated in the Rock.
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mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 6:00 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 2:51 pm

he isnt from Cork.
Yes he is.
He is not.
Leinster Rugby says he was born in Cork.
However, with his parents being from Ukraine the chances that he might marry a cousin from Cork were slim and he was therefore rejected.
The family managed to make it to civilisation a few years later after his sister was born.
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Oldschool wrote:The Duke of Wellington rather nastily put it.
"Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse" or words to that effect.
The Duke didn't like the fact that he was born in Ireland apparently.
No, that was Daniel O’Connell sneer at him. Wellesley was proud of his Irishness- if naturally, in an Ascendancy way.

Arguing that he’s not from Cork, or is…? Well, that’s all beside the point: firstly, as a professional sportsman, where does his best career advantage lie. Secondly, only then does where he was born come into it.
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pangurban1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 8:31 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: March 16th, 2023, 6:00 pm
munster#1 wrote: March 16th, 2023, 4:14 pm

Yes he is.
He is not.
Is Doris Mayo?
He grew up there and still returns there to family house so I'd say yes while also being from Dublin.

Soroka was born in Cork but grew up in dublin, having no attachment to Cork other than its where he was born.
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It depends how the individual identifies. Doris said in a recent interview that he was a Mayo man, so that's good enough for me, he's a Mayo man.
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