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Dave Cahill wrote: October 4th, 2022, 8:41 pm
Ruckedtobits wrote: October 4th, 2022, 6:38 pm Andrew Smith looked like he had come on a lot during the recent Sevens coverage. He could be a beneficiary of the small game - like Aaron Sexton, Jimmy O'B & Hugo K.

Still lots of moaning about this Tour, but Provinces have never fielded such strong, experienced teams in Rd 3 & 4 of any previous URC / Pro14 / Magners.

Previous complaints were we didn't treat RWC seriously enough. Now when the scales are tilted a little bit in favour of international team, there's complaints that URC competition is being ruined.

Needless to say, I'm a fan of the thinking behind this Tour, with such a reduced URC calendar and no formal A competition. I think it will be paying dividends for years to come. As for the opposition, beating bigger stronger men on their home patch is never a bad habit.
The tour will be seen as a good idea if we win a quarter final, if we don't it won't be.
Or if a player bolts.
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ronk wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote: October 4th, 2022, 8:41 pm
Ruckedtobits wrote: October 4th, 2022, 6:38 pm Andrew Smith looked like he had come on a lot during the recent Sevens coverage. He could be a beneficiary of the small game - like Aaron Sexton, Jimmy O'B & Hugo K.

Still lots of moaning about this Tour, but Provinces have never fielded such strong, experienced teams in Rd 3 & 4 of any previous URC / Pro14 / Magners.

Previous complaints were we didn't treat RWC seriously enough. Now when the scales are tilted a little bit in favour of international team, there's complaints that URC competition is being ruined.

Needless to say, I'm a fan of the thinking behind this Tour, with such a reduced URC calendar and no formal A competition. I think it will be paying dividends for years to come. As for the opposition, beating bigger stronger men on their home patch is never a bad habit.
The tour will be seen as a good idea if we win a quarter final, if we don't it won't be.
Or if a player bolts.
But it's the same old argument with 7s. If a player bolts was it specifically this tour or would they have come through naturally, showing up in training for their province, breaking into the urc, then final stages of euro and then the world Cup warm up matches, etc etc.

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I honestly cannot and can see the reason for this tour

I cannot see a reason because it makes no sense

I can see a reason because the result of the management team point to a clear progression

I'm confused
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heno wrote: October 5th, 2022, 1:35 amBut it's the same old argument with 7s. If a player bolts was it specifically this tour or would they have come through naturally, showing up in training for their province, breaking into the urc, then final stages of euro and then the world Cup warm up matches, etc etc.
Not at all post hoc reasoning because Keenan and Jimmy O'Brien . . . .and how much they love repeating Nucifora's talking points . . . .
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Ruckedtobits wrote: October 4th, 2022, 6:38 pm

Still lots of moaning about this Tour, but Provinces have never fielded such strong, experienced teams in Rd 3 & 4 of any previous URC / Pro14 / Magners.
Last year in Rd 1 we played Bulls with the following team:

15. Hugo Keenan (30)
14. Rory O’Loughlin (87)
13. Garry Ringrose (86)
12. Ciarán Frawley (35)
11. James Lowe (52)
10. Johnny Sexton (173) CAPTAIN
9. Luke McGrath (151)
1. Andrew Porter (77)
2. Dan Sheehan (13)
3. Michael Ala’alatoa (0)
4. Ross Molony (116)
5. James Ryan (50)
6. Rhys Ruddock (188)
7. Josh van der Flier (98)
8. Caelan Doris (40)

Replacements:

16. James Tracy (129)
17. Ed Byrne (70)
18. Cian Healy (231)
19. Ryan Baird (27)
20. Max Deegan (65)
21. Jamison Gibson-Park (101)
22. Ross Byrne (104)
23. Jamie Osborne (6)

In Rd 4 we played Scarlets with the following team:

15. Hugo Keenan (32)
14. Jordan Larmour (63)
13. Garry Ringrose (88)
12. Ciarán Frawley (38)
11. James Lowe (53)
10. Johnny Sexton (175) CAPTAIN
9. Jamison Gibson-Park (103)
1. Andrew Porter (79)
2. Rónan Kelleher (26)
3. Tadhg Furlong (114)
4. Ross Molony (119)
5. James Ryan (52)
6. Caelan Doris (41)
7. Josh van der Flier (100)
8. Jack Conan (105)

16. Dan Sheehan (15)
17. Cian Healy (234)
18. Michael Ala’alatoa (3)
19. Ryan Baird (30)
20. Rhys Ruddock (191)
21. Luke McGrath (153)
22. Ross Byrne (106)
23. Jimmy O’Brien (36)
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neill_m wrote: October 4th, 2022, 1:05 pm EMERGING IRELAND V AIRLINK PUMAS:
Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein, Wednesday 5th October, 2022, KO 4.00pm (Irish time) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzOQPKnvoZA

15. Chay Mullins (Connacht/IQ Rugby)
14. Ethan McIlroy (Ulster/Ballynahinch)
13. Antoine Frisch (Munster)
12. Cathal Forde (Connacht/Corinthians)
11. Andrew Smith (Leinster/Clontarf)
10. Jake Flannery (Ulster/Ballynahinch)
9. Michael McDonald (Ulster)
1. Callum Reid (Ulster/Banbridge)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Munster/Garryowen)
3. Roman Salonoa (Munster/Shannon)
4. Cormac Izuchukwu (Ulster/Ballynahinch)
5. Brian Deeny (Leinster/Clontarf)
6. Cian Prendergast (Connacht)(captain)
7. John Hodnett (Munster/UCC)
8. James Culhane (Leinster/UCD)

Replacements:
16. Dylan Tierney-Martin (Connacht/Corinthians)
17. Josh Wycherley (Munster/Young Munster)
18. Sam Illo (Connacht/Buccaneers)
19. Tom Ahern (Munster/Shannon)
20. David McCann (Ulster/Banbridge)
21. Ben Murphy (Leinster/Clontarf)
22. Jack Crowley (Munster/Cork Constitution)
23. Shane Daly (Munster/Cork Constitution)

It should be an interesting match, seeing how the likes of Mullins, Forde and Smith go. The Griquas were poor but EI played well for their first match.
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Hodnett out and Penny starting in his place. Coaches still hoping that Hodnett will be okay to play on Sunday.

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Chay Mullins in for a try early on
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Culhane in for a try.
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Someone is going to get badly hurt with the way this is going. Surprised Mcilroy is still on, thought he was out cold when he fell but hard to see it properly. The officials clearly wanted to ignore this clearout but it’s a really bad one.

Edit: Yellow!! :shock: It’s a nothing game but that guy shouldn’t be coming back on.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote: October 5th, 2022, 4:17 pm Someone is going to get badly hurt with the way this is going. Surprised Mcilroy is still on, thought he was out cold when he fell but hard to see it properly. The officials clearly wanted to ignore this clearout but it’s a really bad one.

Edit: Yellow!! :shock: It’s a nothing game but that guy shouldn’t be coming back on.
Ironically this is good practice for the World Cup as we've never had the luck there in terms of cards in our favour.
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Oh dear. TMO did everything he could but ref wouldn’t listen
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That’s a shocking decision by the Ref. That was a red card offence by the Pumas No 5, clear as day.
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That ref is a disgrace
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I think that’s the worst TMO intervention I’ve ever seen :lol: Even if it was forward, who cares?
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Officiating is a bit of a shambles. Thought there was a clear forward pass in the lead up to Mullins try (before Prendergast break). Now the phantom knock on, hours to review the tape... Ugh
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jezzer wrote: October 5th, 2022, 4:35 pm Officiating is a bit of a shambles. Thought there was a clear forward pass in the lead up to Mullins try (before Prendergast break). Now the phantom knock on, hours to review the tape... Ugh
Well on course for the first half to be about an hour too. Injuries to McIlroy and Salanoa but it shouldn’t have taken this long.

That looked a sore one for Salanoa but good to see him battle on, he’s been very good IMO. Looked like he destroyed one scrum earlier on.
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Connacht should be begging Nucifora to let them have Mullins early.

Culhane looks slight when you see him next to these boys, might need another pre season before we see him for Leinster. Very athletic and has an eye for a gap but his basics have let him down a couple of times. Don’t remember that being an issue for the 20’s though so not a concern.
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This ref is truly awful.
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There are some strange calls from the ref in this game I have to say.
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