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Makes sense. It’s a lot of global travel.
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Richie Murphy, who has been the Ireland Skills and Kicking Coach since 2013, will take over as Ireland Under-20 Head Coach and prepare the squad for the upcoming Under-20 Six Nations Championship this summer. Richie will be in charge of the PwC sponsored Ireland Under-20s for the next two seasons.

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/03/29/ri ... ead-coach/

that's Ben's place in the squad sorted.
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irish u20 camp this weekend.
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Re: Ireland u20 2021

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mildlyinterested wrote: April 17th, 2021, 12:02 pm irish u20 camp this weekend.
Any Squad names released?
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Ruckedtobits wrote: April 18th, 2021, 8:53 am
mildlyinterested wrote: April 17th, 2021, 12:02 pm irish u20 camp this weekend.
Any Squad names released?
haven't seen anything yet.
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Re: Ireland u20 2021

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Players in attendance:

Connacht
Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC) Connacht Academy
Hubert Gilvary (Sligo RFC) NTS
Diarmuid McCormack (DUFC) Connacht PTS

Leinster
Temi Asewunmi Lasisi (Lansdowne FC) Leinster PTS
Lee Barron (DUFC) NTS
Jack Boyle (UCD RFC) NTS
Mark Boyle (Lansdowne FC) Leinster PTS
Aaron Coleman (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Harry Colbert (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Donal Conroy (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Tim Corkery (UCD RFC) NTS
Ben Griffin (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Matthew Grogan (Old Belvedere RFC) Leinster PTS
Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC) Leinster PTS
Marcus Kiely (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS
Josh O’Connor (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS
Will Reilly (MU Barnhall RFC) Leinster PTS
Aaron Rowan (Blackrock RFC) Leinster PTS

Munster
Ethan Coughlan (Shannon RFC) NTS
Jack Delaney (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Mark Donnelly (Garryowen FC) NTS
John Forde (Cork Constitution FC) Munster PTS
Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Aaron Leahy (CBC) NTS
Conor Moloney (Ennis RFC) NTS
Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC) NTS
Harry Riordan (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Jay Traynor (UL Bohemians RFC) Munster PTS
Cian Whooley (UCC RFC) Munster PTS

Ulster
Oscar Egan (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Conor McKee (QUB RFC) NTS
George Saunderson (QUB RFC) NTS
James McCormick (Ballymena RFC) Ulster Academy
Lorcan McLaughlin (QUB RFC) NTS
James Humphreys (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Harry Sheridan (DUFC) NTS

Notable absentees for me are :
Chris Cosgrave ( back three )
Cathal Forde ( Outhalf )
Dan Kelly ( Centre ) ( unlikely to play as he play regularly for Leicester Tigers )
Joe McCarthy ( Second Row )
Ben Moxham ( Centre / Wing )
Ben Murphy ( Scrumhalf )
Alex Soroka ( Backrow )
Tom Stewart ( Hooker )
Jamie Osborne ( Centre )
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That's a broad-based Squad, even with the list of absentees (and there's a few more that could be added to it). The fundamental problems are that this generation are at the period of significant S&C development but totally deprived of any rugby experience, unless they're in a formal Academy structure and, even then, it's largely been training blocks rather than games.

It will likely lead to very uneven development and, potentially, a long injury list as they progress through competition. A very tough coaching gig for all involved.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: May 4th, 2021, 4:49 pm That's a broad-based Squad, even with the list of absentees (and there's a few more that could be added to it). The fundamental problems are that this generation are at the period of significant S&C development but totally deprived of any rugby experience, unless they're in a formal Academy structure and, even then, it's largely been training blocks rather than games.

It will likely lead to very uneven development and, potentially, a long injury list as they progress through competition. A very tough coaching gig for all involved.
Yeah a few players there who haven’t played rugby or potentially haven’t done any gym training in a very long time due to lockdown.
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erskinechilders wrote: May 4th, 2021, 3:49 pm Players in attendance:

Connacht
Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC) Connacht Academy
Hubert Gilvary (Sligo RFC) NTS
Diarmuid McCormack (DUFC) Connacht PTS

Leinster
Temi Asewunmi Lasisi (Lansdowne FC) Leinster PTS
Lee Barron (DUFC) NTS
Jack Boyle (UCD RFC) NTS
Mark Boyle (Lansdowne FC) Leinster PTS
Aaron Coleman (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Harry Colbert (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Donal Conroy (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Tim Corkery (UCD RFC) NTS
Ben Griffin (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Matthew Grogan (Old Belvedere RFC) Leinster PTS
Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC) Leinster PTS
Marcus Kiely (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS
Josh O’Connor (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS
Will Reilly (MU Barnhall RFC) Leinster PTS
Aaron Rowan (Blackrock RFC) Leinster PTS

Munster
Ethan Coughlan (Shannon RFC) NTS
Jack Delaney (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Mark Donnelly (Garryowen FC) NTS
John Forde (Cork Constitution FC) Munster PTS
Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Aaron Leahy (CBC) NTS
Conor Moloney (Ennis RFC) NTS
Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC) NTS
Harry Riordan (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Jay Traynor (UL Bohemians RFC) Munster PTS
Cian Whooley (UCC RFC) Munster PTS

Ulster
Oscar Egan (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Conor McKee (QUB RFC) NTS
George Saunderson (QUB RFC) NTS
James McCormick (Ballymena RFC) Ulster Academy
Lorcan McLaughlin (QUB RFC) NTS
James Humphreys (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Harry Sheridan (DUFC) NTS

Notable absentees for me are :
Chris Cosgrave ( back three )
Cathal Forde ( Outhalf )
Dan Kelly ( Centre ) ( unlikely to play as he play regularly for Leicester Tigers )
Joe McCarthy ( Second Row )
Ben Moxham ( Centre / Wing )
Ben Murphy ( Scrumhalf )
Alex Soroka ( Backrow )
Tom Stewart ( Hooker )
Jamie Osborne ( Centre )
LH Prop
Temi Asewunmi Lasisi (Lansdowne FC)
George Saunderson (QUB RFC) NTS
Jack Boyle (UCD RFC) NTS
Aaron Rowan (Blackrock RFC) Leinster PTS
Mark Donnelly (Garryowen FC) NTS

TH Prop
Ben Griffin (DUFC) Leinster PTS
Oscar Egan (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC) Leinster PTS

Hooker
Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC)
James McCormick (Ballymena RFC) Ulster Academy
Lee Barron (DUFC) NTS
Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS

Lock
Harry Sheridan (DUFC) NTS
Jay Traynor (UL Bohemians RFC) Munster PTS
John Forde (Cork Constitution FC) Munster PTS

Backrow
Lorcan McLaughlin (QUB RFC) NTS
Conor Moloney (Ennis RFC) NTS
Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC) NTS
Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Diarmuid McCormack (DUFC) Connacht PTS
Mark Boyle (Lansdowne FC) Leinster PTS
Aaron Coleman (DUFC) Leinster PTS

Scrumhalf
Conor McKee (QUB RFC) NTS
Ethan Coughlan (Shannon RFC) NTS
Will Reilly (MU Barnhall RFC) Leinster PTS

Outhalf
James Humphreys (QUB RFC) Ulster PTS
Cian Whooley (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Tim Corkery (UCD RFC) NTS

Centre
Harry Riordan (UCC RFC) Munster PTS
Jack Delaney (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Marcus Kiely (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Harry Colbert (DUFC) Leinster PTS

Outside Back
Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC) Munster PTS
Aaron Leahy (CBC) NTS
Josh O’Connor (UCD RFC) Leinster PTS
Donal Conroy (Naas RFC) Leinster PTS
Hubert Gilvary (Sligo RFC) NTS
Matthew Grogan (Old Belvedere RFC) Leinster PTS
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The modern Irish underage Panel with players from QUB, Ennis, MU Barnhall, Sligo, Naas as well as all the usual Club sources.

Very evident to see the dominance of the University Clubs (19). Possible a function of Covid and the closure of Rugby Clubs for almost a year.
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Lock9541 wrote: May 4th, 2021, 4:53 pm
Ruckedtobits wrote: May 4th, 2021, 4:49 pm That's a broad-based Squad, even with the list of absentees (and there's a few more that could be added to it). The fundamental problems are that this generation are at the period of significant S&C development but totally deprived of any rugby experience, unless they're in a formal Academy structure and, even then, it's largely been training blocks rather than games.

It will likely lead to very uneven development and, potentially, a long injury list as they progress through competition. A very tough coaching gig for all involved.
Yeah a few players there who haven’t played rugby or potentially haven’t done any gym training in a very long time due to lockdown.
Depending on what work they have been able to do it could go either way. There have been some good performances in athletics because the break allowed some of them to put in work they normally would never be able to do.
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What’s the story with Chris Cosgrave? Is he injured or is he dropped?
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Lock9541 wrote: May 9th, 2021, 8:46 pm What’s the story with Chris Cosgrave? Is he injured or is he dropped?
Away with 7s afaik
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Prop
Temi Asewunmi Lasisi (Lansdowne FC)
Jack Boyle (UCD RFC)
Mark Donnelly (Garryowen FC)
George Saunderson (QUB RFC)
Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC)
Oscar Egan (QUB RFC)

Hooker
Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC)
Lee Barron (DUFC)
Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC)

Lock
Darragh Murray (Buccaneers RFC)
Joe McCarthy (DUFC)
Mark Morrissey (UCD RFC)
Harry Sheridan (DUFC)
John Forde (Cork Constitution FC)

Backrow
Alex Soroka (Clontarf FC)
Donnacha Byrne (Sligo RFC)
Hubert Costelloe (Corinthians RFC)
Oisin McCormack (Buccaneers RFC)
Diarmuid McCormack (DUFC)
Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC)
Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC)
Reuben Crothers (Ballynahinch RFC)

Scrumhalf
Ben Murphy (Old Wesley RFC)
Nathan Doak (Banbridge RFC)
Conor McKee (QUB RFC)
Hubert Gilvary (Sligo RFC)

Outhalf
Tim Corkery (UCD RFC)
James Humphreys (QUB RFC)
Cian Whooley (UCC RFC)

Centre
Cathal Forde (Corinthians RFC)
Marcus Kiely (Naas RFC)
Harry Colbert (DUFC)
Alan Flannery (Shannon RFC)

Back Three
Donal Conroy (Naas RFC)
Matthew Grogan (Old Belvedere RFC)
Josh O’Connor (UCD RFC)
Aaron Leahy (CBC)
Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC)
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Any ideas on what's the best starting 15 and bench.
Who are the standouts.
Who are the leaders.
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall who's the greatest player of them all? It is Drico your majesty.
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Oldschool wrote: May 10th, 2021, 12:14 pm Any ideas on what's the best starting 15 and bench.
Who are the standouts.
Who are the leaders.

guesswork:

1. Boyle
2. Stewart
3. Egan
4. Soroka
5. McCarthy
6. Sheridan
7. McCormack
8. Kendellan
9. Doak
10. Corkery
11. Rankin
12. Kelly
13. Osborne
14. Moxham
15. Cosgrave
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If the front five are competitive and half-backs competent, that would be an excellent starting XV.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: May 13th, 2021, 10:18 pm If the front five are competitive and half-backs competent, that would be an excellent starting XV.
Doak is probably one of leading players, I would think.
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2021 U20 6 Nations being held in a "bubble" at Arms Park in Cardiff. All Kick Off times are BST and every match will be broadcast in Six Nations territories either on terrestrial TV, broadcaster streaming platforms or via Six Nations digital channels.

Sat Jun 19 2pm Scotland U20 v Ireland U20
Sat Jun 19 5pm England U20 v France U20
Sat Jun 19 8pm Italy U20 v Wales U20

Fri Jun 25 2pm England U20 v Scotland U20
Fri Jun 25 5pm Italy U20 v France U20
Fri Jun 25 8pm Wales U20 v Ireland U20

Thu Jul 1 2pm Scotland U20 v Italy U20
Thu Jul 1 5pm France U20 v Wales U20
Thu Jul 1 8pm Ireland U20 v England U20

Wed Jul 7 2pm Italy U20 v Ireland U20
Wed Jul 7 5pm France U20 v Scotland U20
Wed Jul 7 8pm Wales U20 v England U20

Tue Jul 13 2pm England U20 v Italy U20
Tue Jul 13 4:45pm Ireland U20 v France U20
Tue Jul 13 8pm Scotland U20 v Wales U20
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Starting with Scotland and then Wales gives us a decent chance of getting up to "match-speed" at the right time.

I've an Italian contact who says that their under age teams are looking good from 17's through to '20's due to work put in by O'Shea and Aboud.

Really looking forward to this Tournament which will really strip away many of the normal advantages the English and French have enjoyed in terms of pre-Tournament preparation. This one will be about fundamental talent and quality of coaching on the training ground, both aspects I believe we are decent at.
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