POM was as anonymous as it's possible to be, he needs a rest to recharge the batteries or that should be the excuse used for not bringing him to NZ.LeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑June 4th, 2022, 12:57 pmAbsolutely. Both of them have just about done enough in green this season for Farrell to get away with picking them but surely that can’t continue after last night?riocard911 wrote: ↑June 3rd, 2022, 10:53 pm Certainly, if I was in Faz mór's shoes, having watched that Munster performance in Ravenhill, I wouldn't be bringing either Carbery or Murray to NZ.
If Joey starts next season in better form under a new coach and with Casey as the starting nine then great he should be an option in November but for now it makes no sense to bring him to NZ.
At best Joey would be my 7th choice ten for Ireland right now. That isn’t an an exaggeration, I’d have all four Leinster tens ahead of him and then Carty and Burns. It’d be a toss up then with Healy. Murray would be my 9th choice at the moment. Again that’s not an exaggeration, none of JGP, Casey, Marmion, Blade, Luke, Cooney, Doak or even Nick McCarthy would have put in that kind of performance last night. You also have to factor in that it’s not just temporary form, Murray’s been poor since the tests in Australia four years ago, and Joey’s last promising signs as a ten were probably over three years ago. In Murray’s case you also factor in that his style of play doesn’t suit what Ireland are trying to do.
Murray is another player who needs a rest.
If I were Carbery I'd be praying that Murray gets one and doesn't go on tour to NZ and that I got play with JGP at SH.