Tour to NZ 2022

[FLIP]

Didn't see the game but listened to it on 2FM. Corcoran and Lenihan were fairly damning about Carberry's defence for the last NZ try. Was it that bad? If so, and if Sexton is unavailable for the decider in Wellington when NZ will be absolutely feral, can we afford Carberry defensively at 10?

ROGequse in his matador impression

[Cheeses of Nazareth]

Didn't see the game but listened to it on 2FM. Corcoran and Lenihan were fairly damning about Carberry's defence for the last NZ try. Was it that bad? If so, and if Sexton is unavailable for the decider in Wellington when NZ will be absolutely feral, can we afford Carberry defensively at 10?

Another poor missed tackle today unfortunately. Luke Fitzgerald said he’d struggle to play alongside him as a professional after his tackle attempt last week.. I wouldn’t necessarily agree with anything Luke Fitz has to say but I thought that was pretty damning.

[OTT]

Great post match words from Farrell.

[Dave Cahill]

Didn't see the game but listened to it on 2FM. Corcoran and Lenihan were fairly damning about Carberry's defence for the last NZ try. Was it that bad? If so, and if Sexton is unavailable for the decider in Wellington when NZ will be absolutely feral, can we afford Carberry defensively at 10?

It was pretty bad though it has to bourne in mind that he isn't the first player and won't be last to be sold a kipper by Jordie Barretts footwork. But added to last week, its not a good pattern

[TMC]

Great win, well done players and coaches. Need to calm down now, dog in the attic been screaming at the tv so much

[Dave Cahill]

Like one of ROG's worst efforts except ROG at least put the body on the line.

Thats the difference for me, ROG was a dreadful tackler, but always tried to make them - Joey on the other hand...

[enby]

Interesting stuff on NZ tv. They are being a lot more gracious now. Giving huge credit to JS10
Kirwan: Ire one of the best sides in the world
Beauden B: we were thought a lesson on ball retention tonight

[desperado]

I think Andy Farrell deserves a mention. He's turning into a world class coach. Rather than rubbishing NZ, it's no mean feat to beat them when 1 down in a series (or really 0/5). Lots of improvements today that can be attributed to the coaching team, and but for some rushes blood/individual errors, and questionable ref decisions (red for the Hansen tackle, pen try for Ringrose) we'd have been out of sight by halftime. To be able to compartmentalise the missed opportunities and retain the mental toughness and teamwork in the second half is really heartening. Farrell has always said this series is so much more than the winning ( although of course that's KPI no.1).

[Ruckedtobits]

Ireland doing what we can. Beating NZ at home is a huge psychological barrier and we've overcome it. Supremely proud of all that group and still confident we can improve.

One seriously niggling question is: how Retallick wasn't immediately replaced by the Indepentdent doctor? The second part is how he wasn't kept off, regardless of the result of the HIA1, as Sexton was last week, having passed his HIA1?

This is exactly the circumstances described by World Rugby less than a fortnight ago - "An incident which clearly appears to result in a head collision likely to cause a concussion".

Well done (largely) Tom Foley TMO. Jaco P saw more than previously, but still missed a lot. His ARs were of very little assistance, notably from the "missed" penalty try.

Final comment is that Ian Foster will not be NZ Coach at RWC2023 in France.

[RoboProp]

I wouldn't want to be Ian Foster for all the tea in China

[desperado]

Joey cannot be be our backup 10 for WC. SA, France, ABs see him in a WC game in the defensive line and you know the result. He just doesn't bring anything else special enough to merit ignoring the fact he can't tackle.

[Cheeses of Nazareth]

Would be a brave call considering his lack of recent time at 10 but I think there has to be a consideration of putting Frawley on the bench ahead of him for next week.

[Ruckedtobits]

Didn't see the game but listened to it on 2FM. Corcoran and Lenihan were fairly damning about Carberry's defence for the last NZ try. Was it that bad? If so, and if Sexton is unavailable for the decider in Wellington when NZ will be absolutely feral, can we afford Carberry defensively at 10?

It is now genuinely possibly that Frawley - with a top class attacking and controlled performance against the Maori - could go straight up to the J10 successor slot next week. Carbery is certainly not a player we can afford in our 23, based on his last two performances.

[desperado]

Ireland doing what we can. Beating NZ at home is a huge psychological barrier and we've overcome it. Supremely proud of all that group and still confident we can improve.

One seriously niggling question is: how Retallick wasn't immediately replaced by the Indepentdent doctor? The second part is how he wasn't kept off, regardless of the result of the HIA1, as Sexton was last week, having passed his HIA1?

This is exactly the circumstances described by World Rugby less than a fortnight ago - "An incident which clearly appears to result in a head collision likely to cause a concussion".

Well done (largely) Tom Foley TMO. Jaco P saw more than previously, but still missed a lot. His ARs were of very little assistance, notably from the "missed" penalty try.

Final comment is that Ian Foster will not be NZ Coach at RWC2023 in France.

I think the call to keep Sexton off last week was a Coach decision (and the right one IMO). The protocol is pass HIA1 you can come back is it not? Also is the call for a player to be assessed for HIA not an independent Dr. call?

[riocard911]

It's a massive result for Ireland but also for Leinster. Most of those lads out there today in Dunedin were on a losing streak since Marseille. A first ever win in NZ is a vindication of the current style of play in blue and green. Imagine if they'd come home having lost the series 0-3, after blowing the double? They'd be depressed for the summer and lacking belief heading into the new season. Things are looking a lot rosier now. A Test series victory in NZ is within reach. That alone is a huge achievement by the Ireland players and coaching staff. Éire abú!!! Wellington here we come!!!!!!

[Oldschool]

Will this result change the Ranking order.
NZ likely to drop below France but whither us.

[FLIP]

Will this result change the Ranking order.
NZ likely to drop below France but whither us.

France up to 2nd, Ireland to 3rd, NZ down two to 4th

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Special morning, 117 years without a win there and we got to see the team that finally managed it. Last time we were down there we lost 60-0, what a decade it’s been since then!

If we have a good set piece and are willing to actually kick the ball out and take pressure of ourselves then big things can happen for both this team and Leinster. If we can just get consistency with the first part and remember the second then the future is very very bright.

A really awful 15 minutes or so before HT but in fairness to us there should have been another red card and we should have got the penalty try so maybe that rattled us a bit. Another yellow for Cane for his side entry near the line too and I’m sorry but that guy is embarrassing as a captain. He’s a thug with terrible discipline and some of his interactions with Peyper were just not becoming of an all black captain.

Incredible performance from all our forwards, hard to single anyone out although for Beirne to play like that after only one game in a few months was very special. The bench played their part too, as did backs like Murray who again did well and I want to mention him because I didn’t even want him on tour.

If he wasn’t already I think Sexton became our greatest ever today. 37 on Monday but played like a dream and his CV is just ridiculous now, hopefully he tops it off with a great World Cup but captaining us to a win in New Zealand is truly historic.

Same again next week please

[Oldschool]

Will this result change the Ranking order.
NZ likely to drop below France but whither us.

France up to 2nd, Ireland to 3rd, NZ down two to 4th

Have NZ ever been ranked this low.

[desperado]

If ROG was a turnstile; at least he was one of those old style cast iron ones that occasionally stick. Carbery is like one in Sandymount Station, permanently open on game day; or if it isn't touch yer leapcard and swishhh!!! open sesame.