IRB World Rankings

[Oldschool]

So England 1st, S Africa 2nd, NZ 3rd and Wales 4th. Ireland follow in 5th and then Australia.

I suppose it gives Farrell something to aim for come February!

I presume those rankings could change depending on the results at the weekend.

[Xanthippe]

So England 1st, S Africa 2nd, NZ 3rd and Wales 4th. Ireland follow in 5th and then Australia.

I suppose it gives Farrell something to aim for come February!

I presume those rankings could change depending on the results at the weekend.

Absolutely, whoever wins the final will be #1 and places 2-4 will be decided by winning margins

[Twist]

Can Wales knock the kiwis down to 4th if they win tomorrow?

[johng]

Yes. And SA down to 3rd if they lose.

England would need to lose by 15+ to fall behind a winning Wales or else Wales would need to get 15+ win v NZ

[Xanthippe]

So #2 and from #4 on are now finalised - just England and South Africa left to sort out. The winner will be #1 and the runner up will be #3

1			
2	NEW ZEALAND	92.11
3			
4	WALES		85.02
5	IRELAND		84.45
6	AUSTRALIA	81.90
7	FRANCE		80.88
8	JAPAN		79.28
9	SCOTLAND	79.23
10	ARGENTINA	78.31
11	FIJI		76.21
12	ITALY		72.04
13	TONGA		71.44
14	GEORGIA		71.26
15	SAMOA		70.72
16	SPAIN		68.15
17	USA		68.10
18	URUGUAY		67.41
19	ROMANIA		66.69
20	RUSSIA		63.09

[CiaranIrl]

So #2 and from #4 on are now finalised - just England and South Africa left to sort out. The winner will be #1 and the runner up will be #3

1			
2	NEW ZEALAND	92.11
3			
4	WALES		85.02
5	IRELAND		84.45
6	AUSTRALIA	81.90
7	FRANCE		80.88
8	JAPAN		79.28
9	SCOTLAND	79.23
10	ARGENTINA	78.31
11	FIJI		76.21
12	ITALY		72.04
13	TONGA		71.44
14	GEORGIA		71.26
15	SAMOA		70.72
16	SPAIN		68.15
17	USA		68.10
18	URUGUAY		67.41
19	ROMANIA		66.69
20	RUSSIA		63.09

How are Spain so high?

[Pilotman123]

So #2 and from #4 on are now finalised - just England and South Africa left to sort out. The winner will be #1 and the runner up will be #3

1			
2	NEW ZEALAND	92.11
3			
4	WALES		85.02
5	IRELAND		84.45
6	AUSTRALIA	81.90
7	FRANCE		80.88
8	JAPAN		79.28
9	SCOTLAND	79.23
10	ARGENTINA	78.31
11	FIJI		76.21
12	ITALY		72.04
13	TONGA		71.44
14	GEORGIA		71.26
15	SAMOA		70.72
16	SPAIN		68.15
17	USA		68.10
18	URUGUAY		67.41
19	ROMANIA		66.69
20	RUSSIA		63.09

How are Spain so high?

They’re good and were unlucky to not qualify for the RWC

[tomthefan]

I remember when we were Number One
The good old days!

[neill_m]

So #2 and from #4 on are now finalised - just England and South Africa left to sort out. The winner will be #1 and the runner up will be #3

1			
2	NEW ZEALAND	92.11
3			
4	WALES		85.02
5	IRELAND		84.45
6	AUSTRALIA	81.90
7	FRANCE		80.88
8	JAPAN		79.28
9	SCOTLAND	79.23
10	ARGENTINA	78.31
11	FIJI		76.21
12	ITALY		72.04
13	TONGA		71.44
14	GEORGIA		71.26
15	SAMOA		70.72
16	SPAIN		68.15
17	USA		68.10
18	URUGUAY		67.41
19	ROMANIA		66.69
20	RUSSIA		63.09

How are Spain so high?

Would have qualified for the RWC, but had administrative issues. 2 of their players were not eligible as they had played for France U20s back when they were still a capture team. Were docked 40 points as these players played in all 8 games in the Rugby Europe Championship.

[blockhead]

The coronavirus could have a dramatic effect on the rankings with the WC seedings being fixed in late November.
A 0-0 draw at home to Italy, for example, would not be good at all.

[cormac]

The coronavirus could have a dramatic effect on the rankings with the WC seedings being fixed in late November.
A 0-0 draw at home to Italy, for example, would not be good at all.

Pretty sure they've said that any postponed games, even if they're declared a 0-0 draw, won't be used for calculating the ratings.

[JB1973]

The coronavirus could have a dramatic effect on the rankings with the WC seedings being fixed in late November.
A 0-0 draw at home to Italy, for example, would not be good at all.

Pretty sure they've said that any postponed games, even if they're declared a 0-0 draw, won't be used for calculating the ratings.

did that apply to Italy vs nz in the world cup? or is it just a 6 nations thing. That would have given Italy a huge rankings boost

The coronavirus is likely to cause mass disruption to the summer tours and maybe even to the up coming autumn games.

If that is the case could they not delay the world cup seeding's or is the time set in stone?

[Oldschool]

The coronavirus could have a dramatic effect on the rankings with the WC seedings being fixed in late November.
A 0-0 draw at home to Italy, for example, would not be good at all.

Pretty sure they've said that any postponed games, even if they're declared a 0-0 draw, won't be used for calculating the ratings.

did that apply to Italy vs nz in the world cup? or is it just a 6 nations thing. That would have given Italy a huge rankings boost

The coronavirus is likely to cause mass disruption to the summer tours and maybe even to the up coming autumn games.

If that is the case could they not delay the world cup seeding's or is the time set in stone?

If CV19 behaves like your typical flu virus it's impact could start to wane in a similar way as the temperatures begin to rise in the NH.
IE peaks in February and tapers off by April.
Here's hoping.

[Xanthippe]

The coronavirus could have a dramatic effect on the rankings with the WC seedings being fixed in late November.
A 0-0 draw at home to Italy, for example, would not be good at all.

Pretty sure they've said that any postponed games, even if they're declared a 0-0 draw, won't be used for calculating the ratings.

did that apply to Italy vs nz in the world cup? or is it just a 6 nations thing. That would have given Italy a huge rankings boost

The coronavirus is likely to cause mass disruption to the summer tours and maybe even to the up coming autumn games.

If that is the case could they not delay the world cup seeding's or is the time set in stone?

Yes it did. If Italy had really managed a 0-0 draw with BNZ in the World Cup there would have been a 2.0 ratings exchange but that didn’t happen - BNZ’s ranking the Monday after the cancelled game was the same as it was the previous Monday.

[The Doc]

If CV19 behaves like your typical flu virus it's impact could start to wane in a similar way as the temperatures begin to rise in the NH.
IE peaks in February and tapers off by April.
Here's hoping.

It's a completely different type of virus. Not the same family. And it looks like it can reinfect.

Nobody knows if temperature will slow it down




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[Xanthippe]

After the fantastic Scotland victory England drop one place in the rankings and are now turd

[Ruckedtobits]

Ireland are 4th in World rankings at present and Italy are 15th as Benetton claim their first trophy in European Club rugby and Kieran Crowley departs to take up the National Coaching role. By the time we get to the opening games of RWC2023 I fully expect the gap to be down to 5 places with Italy on an upward trajectory.

Crowley has been on this journey before with Canada and knows how to handle the development of an international team. Looking forward to watching this progress.

[Xanthippe]

We need to win our summer games or it may happen sooner than you think - a loss to either (or both) Japan or USA would knock us way down the rankings. Therein lies the problem with blooding new players - you're actually 'safer' giving them a start against an equal or better team because the knock on effect of a loss is not so great

[Xanthippe]

That win puts us up to 3rd in rankings - will be 4th if Australia beat England or if England win by more than 15 points

cr@p, that last minute try and conversion puts England in 3rd and us in 4th

[blockhead]

The way we're going we could be World No.1 going into the next World Cup!
Now wouldn't that be brillian.....t.....oh wait.