Sunday Times announce that official figure was 35,517.Dave Cahill wrote:The actual figure was just over 35k. I wonder what figure will be released.
Surely they didn't massage that figure, it couldn't have been lower than 35k?
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Sunday Times announce that official figure was 35,517.Dave Cahill wrote:The actual figure was just over 35k. I wonder what figure will be released.
No, that tallies with what I'd heard.Slipper1 wrote:Sunday Times announce that official figure was 35,517.Dave Cahill wrote:The actual figure was just over 35k. I wonder what figure will be released.
Surely they didn't massage that figure, it couldn't have been lower than 35k?
A tad disturbing aright. I wouldn't write of general pi$$ed-off-ness levels either. Do many people have money to blow on a night on the razz any more?akared wrote:I didn't go to the game for obvious reasons but I thought the main winners of the situation would be the publicans of Dublin. I was shocked when I walked into one of the main rugby pubs in the d4 area 20 minutes before the game, which would normally be alive with excited rugby fans deep in debate on the outcome of today's match, to witness a Sunday afternoon crowd paying no attention to the muted TV with punditry of the match, the volume wasn't turned up until about 10 minutes into the match. Everyone seemed so disinterested, a world apart from the six nations two years ago. Is the rugby supporting public really that fickle or has the ticket fiasco not just caused a buycott of the attendance of the match itself but also for the supporting of the team?
Fine from the south stand premium level, but given the size of the crowd its not that surprising.Dave Cahill wrote:
What was exiting the stadium like, does anyone know?
I think the stupid, arrogant attitude of the IRFU has created such an amount of bad feeling about the match that it spilled over into a general apathy about the game itself. I was at a junior schools match and a J4 club match yesterday and no one I spoke to was actually going to the game or was even that bothered by it. By pricing a vast swathe of the Irish rugby public out of going to games, the IRFU has created a sense of disconnection to the team.akared wrote:I didn't go to the game for obvious reasons but I thought the main winners of the situation would be the publicans of Dublin. I was shocked when I walked into one of the main rugby pubs in the d4 area 20 minutes before the game, which would normally be alive with excited rugby fans deep in debate on the outcome of today's match, to witness a Sunday afternoon crowd paying no attention to the muted TV with punditry of the match, the volume wasn't turned up until about 10 minutes into the match. Everyone seemed so disinterested, a world apart from the six nations two years ago. Is the rugby supporting public really that fickle or has the ticket fiasco not just caused a buycott of the attendance of the match itself but also for the supporting of the team?
IRFU fixed that for you.RoboProp wrote:A full stadium may have been worth an extra €2M.
Will you get over yourself.....simplythebest wrote:I went - only because I was given (i.e. free) 2 tickets yesterday afternoon. I was on the halfway line in the East Lower and looking at the South Terrace and the West Stand, I was guessing that it was 80 - 85% full and I guessed at 42k. But I must have over estimated.
However the athmosphere was cr@p. Give me a Leinster game in the RDS any day of the week. My wife tells me that I am getting more and more cantankerous the older I get and I know its propabably true but the people there were really annoying me. There was a howaya behind me that kept shouting "Would yiz get the ball", some other stupid cow immediately roared out when Jonny missed the first kick, "Would ye bring on ROG" and then I had to look at all these clowns who turned up at the wrong stadium, dressed in their Munster garb (Munster I presume must have been playing somewhere else).
I tell you, for an enjoyable day/night out it's the Leinster games for me.
Does she have a sister, Blonde, Glasses, goes by the name macklady 15?simplythebest wrote:My wife tells me that I am getting more and more cantankerous the older I get and I know its propabably true but ...............
Stayed for a pint, exited via Bath Avenue. Only crowd worth the name was the army of stewards who came streaming past.Dave Cahill wrote:No, that tallies with what I'd heard.Slipper1 wrote:Sunday Times announce that official figure was 35,517.Dave Cahill wrote:The actual figure was just over 35k. I wonder what figure will be released.
Surely they didn't massage that figure, it couldn't have been lower than 35k?
What was exiting the stadium like, does anyone know?
No problems exiting onto LR itself ...reasonably quick get away to the Horse Show House.Dave Cahill wrote:
What was exiting the stadium like, does anyone know?
Must have been your mott doing the shouting. When the SA No. 8 was holding the ball at the base of their scrum and their No. 9 was organising his back line and your mott was shouting at the Ireland team, "would yiz get the ball", I really don't think it has anything to do with emotions. Especially when it happens continually.Skyhawk wrote:Will you get over yourself.....simplythebest wrote:I went - only because I was given (i.e. free) 2 tickets yesterday afternoon. I was on the halfway line in the East Lower and looking at the South Terrace and the West Stand, I was guessing that it was 80 - 85% full and I guessed at 42k. But I must have over estimated.
However the athmosphere was cr@p. Give me a Leinster game in the RDS any day of the week. My wife tells me that I am getting more and more cantankerous the older I get and I know its propabably true but the people there were really annoying me. There was a howaya behind me that kept shouting "Would yiz get the ball", some other stupid cow immediately roared out when Jonny missed the first kick, "Would ye bring on ROG" and then I had to look at all these clowns who turned up at the wrong stadium, dressed in their Munster garb (Munster I presume must have been playing somewhere else).
I tell you, for an enjoyable day/night out it's the Leinster games for me.
People have a tendency to shout and roar at matches, and their emotions often get the better of them. Have you ever been to a club game?
I was also offered two free tickets to the match but declined as I had already decided against going. A sad day for the Irish rugby supporting public, the Union should hang their heads in shame.
I agree Donny. I paid to go to the game but it seemed like there was a real sense of negativity amongst everyone before and during the game (myself included). It just didn't feel like a big test match when the stadium was less than 80% full. I'm convinced that the team would have played better in front of a full house. I've never been more angry and frustrated at a match than I was on Saturday night.Donny B. wrote:I think the stupid, arrogant attitude of the IRFU has created such an amount of bad feeling about the match that it spilled over into a general apathy about the game itself. I was at a junior schools match and a J4 club match yesterday and no one I spoke to was actually going to the game or was even that bothered by it. By pricing a vast swathe of the Irish rugby public out of going to games, the IRFU has created a sense of disconnection to the team.akared wrote:I didn't go to the game for obvious reasons but I thought the main winners of the situation would be the publicans of Dublin. I was shocked when I walked into one of the main rugby pubs in the d4 area 20 minutes before the game, which would normally be alive with excited rugby fans deep in debate on the outcome of today's match, to witness a Sunday afternoon crowd paying no attention to the muted TV with punditry of the match, the volume wasn't turned up until about 10 minutes into the match. Everyone seemed so disinterested, a world apart from the six nations two years ago. Is the rugby supporting public really that fickle or has the ticket fiasco not just caused a buycott of the attendance of the match itself but also for the supporting of the team?
For Ireland's sake I hope this isn't allowed to fester and become permanent.
From my point of view speaking as someone who has always gone to most AI's and 6N and at least one of the away games) - when they announced the 4 game package I just wrote off going to the AI's. Made plans for the Saturdays. So even when offered free tickets (and lunch) late last week I turned them down as I already had plans - didn't even g to the pub - got home 10 mins before the game and watched and turned it off on the final whistle.dipper wrote:I agree Donny. I paid to go to the game but it seemed like there was a real sense of negativity amongst everyone before and during the game (myself included). It just didn't feel like a big test match when the stadium was less than 80% full. I'm convinced that the team would have played better in front of a full house. I've never been more angry and frustrated at a match than I was on Saturday night.Donny B. wrote:I think the stupid, arrogant attitude of the IRFU has created such an amount of bad feeling about the match that it spilled over into a general apathy about the game itself. I was at a junior schools match and a J4 club match yesterday and no one I spoke to was actually going to the game or was even that bothered by it. By pricing a vast swathe of the Irish rugby public out of going to games, the IRFU has created a sense of disconnection to the team.akared wrote:I didn't go to the game for obvious reasons but I thought the main winners of the situation would be the publicans of Dublin. I was shocked when I walked into one of the main rugby pubs in the d4 area 20 minutes before the game, which would normally be alive with excited rugby fans deep in debate on the outcome of today's match, to witness a Sunday afternoon crowd paying no attention to the muted TV with punditry of the match, the volume wasn't turned up until about 10 minutes into the match. Everyone seemed so disinterested, a world apart from the six nations two years ago. Is the rugby supporting public really that fickle or has the ticket fiasco not just caused a buycott of the attendance of the match itself but also for the supporting of the team?
For Ireland's sake I hope this isn't allowed to fester and become permanent.
You werent at the NZ game two years ago then.dipper wrote:I'm convinced that the team would have played better in front of a full house. I've never been more angry and frustrated at a match than I was on Saturday night.
I think you're right on the money, and I'd posted this today after failing to successfully place it anywhere.The Doc wrote:From my point of view speaking as someone who has always gone to most AI's and 6N and at least one of the away games) - when they announced the 4 game package I just wrote off going to the AI's. Made plans for the Saturdays. So even when offered free tickets (and lunch) late last week I turned them down as I already had plans - didn't even g to the pub - got home 10 mins before the game and watched and turned it off on the final whistle.
After the IRFU’s ticketing masterplan, suddenly their target customer was looking at a sum of nigh-on-€400, adding at least another €250 (allowing for a less hectic pace at the Samoa match and a Sunday Argentina game) to that already large sum.
That’s a lot of money. To one person, it’s the bones of a ski holiday; to another it’s their car insurance; to a third it’s half of their kid’s school fees for the year. And that’s for a person going alone, never mind one who would intend to bring friends or family.
As the match tickets paled in comparison, Joe Punter for the first time contemplated the simple notion of not watching the match from a stadium seat, considering instead the sofa or the high stool. Once that notion was explored, even for a moment, simply dropping the price closer to the old levels wasn’t going to do the trick.
Complementary goods, Economics 101. The IRFU took a mostly inelastic product called “going to the match” – previously compared to a decent meal out or a music concert – and moved it into another bracket entirely, filled with very expensive things against which tickets couldn’t possibly compete.
Once they’d done that, breaking the tickets into two batches made no difference. The spell was broken; tickets were now luxury items, not the essentials which they were once deemed to be. That, more than anything else, destroyed their demand and resulted in the alienation, even for a brief time, of their fanbase.