I was thinking more Brendan Venter.
As for being a bluff, distraction to take pressure off the players.... Well you know what they call people who ironically f%~k a goat?
That's right, goatfuckers.
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There's only been three full tours to Australia in the last 100 years (1989, 2001 and 2013) so there's a very small group of Ireland players who've toured all three, let alone featured in test matches on all three tours.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
To my knowledge no player Irish or British has , the lions have only ever won two consecutive test series on the bounce 71 and 74 and lost before and after those two.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
You'd have to think one of them would stand a good chance of making another tour.JB1973 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 4:15 pmTo my knowledge no player Irish or British has , the lions have only ever won two consecutive test series on the bounce 71 and 74 and lost before and after those two.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
If we win this series a run of 3 unbeaten would be as good as it's been, Farrell Mako v Murray and Faletau are all on their 3rd tour I can't think of any others out there at the moment who are but I stand to be corrected,
Alun Wynn Jones?JB1973 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 4:15 pmTo my knowledge no player Irish or British has , the lions have only ever won two consecutive test series on the bounce 71 and 74 and lost before and after those two.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
If we win this series a run of 3 unbeaten would be as good as it's been, Farrell Mako v Murray and Faletau are all on their 3rd tour I can't think of any others out there at the moment who are but I stand to be corrected,
True that, thought the question was three or more
Spot on. took the words out of my gob
I was thinking the same but didn’t want to make the claim in case I was wide of the mark.JB1973 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 4:15 pmTo my knowledge no player Irish or British has , the lions have only ever won two consecutive test series on the bounce 71 and 74 and lost before and after those two.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
If we win this series a run of 3 unbeaten would be as good as it's been, Farrell Mako v Murray and Faletau are all on their 3rd tour I can't think of any others out there at the moment who are but I stand to be corrected,
awj has lost a lions series though (2009 vs boks) ,
If he can coach the lions to another test winning series then he surpasses the likes of geech and carwyn as the greatest lions coach of all timemunster#1 wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 9:09 amI was thinking the same but didn’t want to make the claim in case I was wide of the mark.JB1973 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 4:15 pmTo my knowledge no player Irish or British has , the lions have only ever won two consecutive test series on the bounce 71 and 74 and lost before and after those two.munster#1 wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 12:34 pm One for the rugby nerds.
If the lions win one of the remaining 2 games they will have won the series.
Murray has toured and won matches against all 3 opponents, which I’d imagine puts him in a fairly prestigious group?
A tour victory against SA will mean that Murray will have been involved in 2 tour victories and 1 draw.
Question, has any Irish player ever toured all 3 without experiencing a series loss?
If we win this series a run of 3 unbeaten would be as good as it's been, Farrell Mako v Murray and Faletau are all on their 3rd tour I can't think of any others out there at the moment who are but I stand to be corrected,
Remarkable achievement from the select group of players.
Like him or hate him, Gartland has a remarkable and unrivalled record in the northern hemisphere.
So I just totes misread the question.
ha if I can squeeze an osprey on to any list , I wouldOldschoolsocks wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 3:08 pmSo I just totes misread the question.
In retrospect there’s absolutely no way you’d have left AWJ off the list if he belonged on it.
At what cost though? His attitude has alienated a lot of people away from the Lions concept. 12 years ago I watched every match I could at the club or down the pub. 8 years ago I did as many as I could, except the 3rd test. Since then I've only watched the highlights of one match, because he poisoned the well.
Erasmus is really bringing the game into disrepute at this stage. World Rugby should fine his union a significant amount for the behaviour of their DOR, which has been an embarrassment to the sport. Grow the f*ck up and act with some decorum.fourthirtythree wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 11:52 amI was thinking more Brendan Venter.
As for being a bluff, distraction to take pressure off the players.... Well you know what they call people who ironically f%~k a goat?
That's right, goatfuckers.
Hugo - I think you should do up a one hour video with clips from the "bellers" with your commentary over it - would be very "of the moment"hugonaut wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 4:37 pmErasmus is really bringing the game into disrepute at this stage. World Rugby should fine his union a significant amount for the behaviour of their DOR, which has been an embarrassment to the sport. Grow the f*ck up and act with some decorum.fourthirtythree wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 11:52 amI was thinking more Brendan Venter.
As for being a bluff, distraction to take pressure off the players.... Well you know what they call people who ironically f%~k a goat?
That's right, goatfuckers.
I was about to say that I was obviously getting older and crotchety over the pandemic [which is true], but on second thoughts I always would have thought that the two coaches whinging about refereeing decisions and "playing mind games" before the first test was a load of tawdry sh*t. I thought that people LOLing over tweets by "Jaco Johan" was just performative banter nonsense ... Haskell-class, F Grade bantz. "The sh*tness is what made it funny" - no, you d*ckhead. It didn't. You are the type of beller who laughs at your country's equivalent of Rory's Stories.
I actually don't give a sh*t about the Lions - it has really grown stale for me. I just want the Leinster players to a] not get injured and b] play well so that they enjoy it and give a good account of themselves. Same thing to a lesser extent for the rest of the Irish players, then no particular feelings about it. The constant hype is wearing and clearly doesn't match the below-ordinary standard of the matches. How can somebody tell me that playing against Natal Seconds in a empty stadium compares with [never mind exceeds] playing England or France in the Six Nations and expect me to believe that?
The never-ending din on social media of people being more Lionsy than each other and telling everybody that "that's what the Lions is all about". Listen up, you pontificating dose: the Lions is about getting loads of kit and being on the next team up, so you can be super-friends with all the other international BFDs. As I've said before, it's like being on the SCT when you're an U16. You are now officially a BFD. It's a great feeling.
With all that said ... I will actually be cheering for them on Saturday. South Africa rugby fans must be the most irritating set of knobs on planet rugby. They make Welsh Rugby Twitter look like a collection of sound philosophers. No offense JB1973. You're actually sound.
Interesting take on things.FLIP wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 4:10 pmAt what cost though? His attitude has alienated a lot of people away from the Lions concept. 12 years ago I watched every match I could at the club or down the pub. 8 years ago I did as many as I could, except the 3rd test. Since then I've only watched the highlights of one match, because he poisoned the well.
Not to say I'm not pleased for the players who make it and make a name for themselves. But for me, it doesn't engage me any more. If he does succeed, good for him and good for the players, but it doesn't mean much for me anymore.
hugonaut wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 4:37 pm
Erasmus is really bringing the game into disrepute at this stage. World Rugby should fine his union a significant amount for the behaviour of their DOR, which has been an embarrassment to the sport. Grow the f*ck up and act with some decorum.
I was about to say that I was obviously getting older and crotchety over the pandemic [which is true], but on second thoughts I always would have thought that the two coaches whinging about refereeing decisions and "playing mind games" before the first test was a load of tawdry sh*t. I thought that people LOLing over tweets by "Jaco Johan" was just performative banter nonsense ... Haskell-class, F Grade bantz. "The sh*tness is what made it funny" - no, you d*ckhead. It didn't. You are the type of beller who laughs at your country's equivalent of Rory's Stories.
I actually don't give a sh*t about the Lions - it has really grown stale for me. I just want the Leinster players to a] not get injured and b] play well so that they enjoy it and give a good account of themselves. Same thing to a lesser extent for the rest of the Irish players, then no particular feelings about it. The constant hype is wearing and clearly doesn't match the below-ordinary standard of the matches. How can somebody tell me that playing against Natal Seconds in a empty stadium compares with [never mind exceeds] playing England or France in the Six Nations and expect me to believe that?
The never-ending din on social media of people being more Lionsy than each other and telling everybody that "that's what the Lions is all about". Listen up, you pontificating dose: the Lions is about getting loads of kit and being on the next team up, so you can be super-friends with all the other international BFDs. As I've said before, it's like being on the SCT when you're an U16. You are now officially a BFD. It's a great feeling.
With all that said ... I will actually be cheering for them on Saturday. South Africa rugby fans must be the most irritating set of knobs on planet rugby. They make Welsh Rugby Twitter look like a collection of sound philosophers. No offense JB1973. You're actually sound.