Walked into that one! Stu was in the wilderness. Nienhaber prob just didn't have anything lined up post RWC and figured he needs to keep his hand in. That'd be my one concern. Always been impressed with how he talks about the game.
Jacques Nienaber to join Leinster Rugby
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Smart bit of PR by Leo et al, announcing the Nienaber appointment the day of Leinster's first of two matches in Safferland.
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Delighted with this, and look forward seeing Jacques' plans in action after the WC! A true student of the game. Will be great to get him on board.
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Will there be a bit of a reshuffle, with Leo moving upstairs and Jack becoming head coach?
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It's almost as if PR is in his bloodriocard911 wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 8:17 pm Smart bit of PR by Leo et al, announcing the Nienaber appointment the day of Leinster's first of two matches in Safferland.
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Upstairs to where? Leo is already confirmed as Leinster’s head coach for the next two years.munster#1 wrote:Will there be a bit of a reshuffle, with Leo moving upstairs and Jack becoming head coach?
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Wix posted this link earlier https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/statu ... 0965664770
If you’re to take Leos words at face value I’d say no, all the language points to a team of coaches of which Jawues will be a member with Leo as Head Coach…
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In a director of rugby type position.
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Great bit of business to get an international head coach of his calibre to come in as an assistant coach.Oldschoolsocks wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 9:53 pmWix posted this link earlier https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/statu ... 0965664770
If you’re to take Leos words at face value I’d say no, all the language points to a team of coaches of which Jawues will be a member with Leo as Head Coach…
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https://youtu.be/QzN5kZ2A2v8
Our SA friends ain't overjoyed with this development. They all agree he is a top defence coach and a big loss for them although they speculate that he may find it difficult stepping down to defence coach and to operate without his mentor Rassie
Our SA friends ain't overjoyed with this development. They all agree he is a top defence coach and a big loss for them although they speculate that he may find it difficult stepping down to defence coach and to operate without his mentor Rassie
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Clearly a driven coach in a winning RWC management team ensures we are in taking the services of a man beneficial to us and who understands the nuances of the provincial rugby setup here
The use of considerable bulk in the SA setup to ensure go forward ball is akin to methodology deployed by Leinster in many attacks in our season and we score this way in most games and accepting that we do not play the same model of rugby
But looking at our season end competitors and the size and mobility of many of the larger French club players we no longer can play this style with an acceptable success rate and this now likely will be one of our next steps forward in attaining parity in deploying the bludgeoning power of larger players
Are we looking at a route for involving some “suitable” SA players in assisting us to “beef up” our pack - the international call for so many of our forwards has proved to be stressful for the club I suspect particularly the 6N injuries as we are entering knock out rugby stages and in the event of two or more serious injuries particularly at lock and back row these could prove to be the difference between being winning finalists or not
We have seen the considerable benefits of Jenkins this season who was key for us many times in games in both attack and defence and we missed his presence during his recent injury
We are very unlikely to be in position to acquire the services of premium locks locally or internationally but SA would appear to be quiet productive in terms of 120KG+ players and it would be reasonable to assume the incumbent coach be well knowledgeable in the varying skill sets of many such players - we might even retain the services of a 20 year old who may well excel given our coaches skill sets and become the all out warmonger that some hope for
We are with best will in the world not going to turn out many 125KG behemoths in our school system but alongside speed and skill Size/Bulk is defining success in our target competitions (LAR last weekend as an example)
I do hope that this is part of the mission with acquiring Coach Nienaber
The use of considerable bulk in the SA setup to ensure go forward ball is akin to methodology deployed by Leinster in many attacks in our season and we score this way in most games and accepting that we do not play the same model of rugby
But looking at our season end competitors and the size and mobility of many of the larger French club players we no longer can play this style with an acceptable success rate and this now likely will be one of our next steps forward in attaining parity in deploying the bludgeoning power of larger players
Are we looking at a route for involving some “suitable” SA players in assisting us to “beef up” our pack - the international call for so many of our forwards has proved to be stressful for the club I suspect particularly the 6N injuries as we are entering knock out rugby stages and in the event of two or more serious injuries particularly at lock and back row these could prove to be the difference between being winning finalists or not
We have seen the considerable benefits of Jenkins this season who was key for us many times in games in both attack and defence and we missed his presence during his recent injury
We are very unlikely to be in position to acquire the services of premium locks locally or internationally but SA would appear to be quiet productive in terms of 120KG+ players and it would be reasonable to assume the incumbent coach be well knowledgeable in the varying skill sets of many such players - we might even retain the services of a 20 year old who may well excel given our coaches skill sets and become the all out warmonger that some hope for
We are with best will in the world not going to turn out many 125KG behemoths in our school system but alongside speed and skill Size/Bulk is defining success in our target competitions (LAR last weekend as an example)
I do hope that this is part of the mission with acquiring Coach Nienaber
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A couple of gigantic ball playing props with an Irish grandparent would come in handy too
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No, I really don't think so. Leinster have taken a route that has brought Ireland to the top of the world game and has developed some outstanding players.Bluesixtysixtysix wrote: ↑April 16th, 2023, 1:59 am
Are we looking at a route for involving some “suitable” SA players in assisting us to “beef up” our pack - the international call for so many of our forwards has proved to be stressful for the club I suspect particularly the 6N injuries as we are entering knock out rugby stages and in the event of two or more serious injuries particularly at lock and back row these could prove to be the difference between being winning finalists or not
We might tinker slightly and take advantage of Nienaber's contacts to make a signing or two but the reality is that we're not going to be swapping out Ryan, Doris, van der Flier, Furlong etc. And we're not going to put 10kg on them either. Nienaber is coming to play to our strengths, not that element of South Africa's.
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Em, welcome aboard Jaques
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Interesting to read that they good a few CV's for the job but Jacques wasn't one of them. They had to really go after him because he was the guy they wanted. It all sounds very positive.
Actually it's a brilliant interview by Leo. Even with his enthusiasm for Jacques coming in he didn't forget about Stu and how much he's done for Leinster and Irish rugby.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 35253.html
Actually it's a brilliant interview by Leo. Even with his enthusiasm for Jacques coming in he didn't forget about Stu and how much he's done for Leinster and Irish rugby.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 35253.html
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This clearly a top appointment and Leo is doing what he has consistently done, surrounded himself with top coaches and knowledge. He knows that he will be measured on results and the collective delivers stronger than the individual.
Hope this one works out, the one concern I'd have is culture. Bok culture is win at all costs, how you do it doesn't seem to matter. Whereas there is a Leinster way in terms of how we compete and play - the style of rugby we play and the values that underpin that.
Hope this one works out, the one concern I'd have is culture. Bok culture is win at all costs, how you do it doesn't seem to matter. Whereas there is a Leinster way in terms of how we compete and play - the style of rugby we play and the values that underpin that.
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Fascinated to read ROC's piece this morning about how Nienaber didn't apply for the post - Cullen identified and approached him.
They've always been big believers in bringing in different viewpoints, outlooks, perspectives etc, and this is certainly doing that.
Our defence has been largely excellent this season, but will be intriguing to see how he challenges the players and steps things up in that area.
I find it a bizarre and very un-Leinsterlike appointment, but trust Leo ultimately that he's got it right.
They've always been big believers in bringing in different viewpoints, outlooks, perspectives etc, and this is certainly doing that.
Our defence has been largely excellent this season, but will be intriguing to see how he challenges the players and steps things up in that area.
I find it a bizarre and very un-Leinsterlike appointment, but trust Leo ultimately that he's got it right.
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Interesting take on the appointment from NZ, highlighting the negative aspect - JN having thus far as coach always having been under Rassie's wing - and the positive one - his getting out from under said wing by moving to Dublin.
https://youtu.be/2Qw9PEHT78Q
Lots of unknowables, but I trust Leo's judgement, that Jacques will be a great addition to the coaching group and a worthy successor to Stuart Lancaster.
https://youtu.be/2Qw9PEHT78Q
Lots of unknowables, but I trust Leo's judgement, that Jacques will be a great addition to the coaching group and a worthy successor to Stuart Lancaster.
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Jacques: "I Like to have a beer and a Laugh"mildlyinterested wrote: ↑April 17th, 2023, 11:40 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS8hNCfT3UE
this is good.
Leinster: "Get your coat Jacques......you've pulled"