Jacques Nienaber to join Leinster Rugby
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Just thinking Jacques joining also strengthenings our Physio group too.
I wonder if we will use him on the pitch during games as water carrier/physio.
Used to really bug me seeing him on the pitch but in the last few days I have had a 'Road to Damascus' type conversion.
I wonder if we will use him on the pitch during games as water carrier/physio.
Used to really bug me seeing him on the pitch but in the last few days I have had a 'Road to Damascus' type conversion.
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So take away his view from above/screen to be on the pitch dividing his thoughts between defence and assessing injuries?
Not sure Leinster are that cash-strapped we need him to double job.
Not sure Leinster are that cash-strapped we need him to double job.
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The accusation was when he was in Munster that he used his physio credentials to come onto the field and give coaching messages to players while playing waterboy or physio.
Coaches are not usually allowed onto a rugby field.
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I would reckon you're losing more than you're gaining there.
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Not necessarily if you have Leo, goodman and O’Brien up in the clouds watching on. In fairness we already do a form of that with robin mcbryde speaking to players from the sideline or coming in with water during breaks
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Victor Matfield: “From Leinster’s point of view, they dominated last year, but didn’t win a trophy. That’s something Jacques can bring to them. He understands how to win trophies, how to win big games. That’s a mentality that can make Leinster just more powerful.”
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I like trophies
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Last time I looked we'd won a lot of trophies and big games.deco wrote: ↑April 24th, 2023, 1:24 pm Victor Matfield: “From Leinster’s point of view, they dominated last year, but didn’t win a trophy. That’s something Jacques can bring to them. He understands how to win trophies, how to win big games. That’s a mentality that can make Leinster just more powerful.”
Not last year but...
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He’s probably more meaning last year but also our run I. The champions cup since 2019 where we have nearly got over the line on several occasionsDexter wrote: ↑April 24th, 2023, 2:18 pmLast time I looked we'd won a lot of trophies and big games.deco wrote: ↑April 24th, 2023, 1:24 pm Victor Matfield: “From Leinster’s point of view, they dominated last year, but didn’t win a trophy. That’s something Jacques can bring to them. He understands how to win trophies, how to win big games. That’s a mentality that can make Leinster just more powerful.”
Not last year but...
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Flannery "Nienabar was the best coach I've worked with" on RTE punditry.
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High praise indeed
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Some endorsement, alright!!!
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unfortunately its been awhile now since they won the trophy they aim to win at the start of every seasonDexter wrote: ↑April 24th, 2023, 2:18 pmLast time I looked we'd won a lot of trophies and big games.deco wrote: ↑April 24th, 2023, 1:24 pm Victor Matfield: “From Leinster’s point of view, they dominated last year, but didn’t win a trophy. That’s something Jacques can bring to them. He understands how to win trophies, how to win big games. That’s a mentality that can make Leinster just more powerful.”
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Have to say, I'm excited to see what he can do with our defence. I've seen the Springboks up close now twice in the past few weeks (in Twickenham v the All Blacks and Saturday night in Paris) and have been blown away by the quality of their defence on both occasions.
If Nienaber is the architect (and it appears he is) then it's definitely exciting. Bernard Jackman was gushing in his praise of it on the 42 podcast, having discussed it on Friday night with Brian O'Driscoll and Dillan Leyds.
If Nienaber is the architect (and it appears he is) then it's definitely exciting. Bernard Jackman was gushing in his praise of it on the 42 podcast, having discussed it on Friday night with Brian O'Driscoll and Dillan Leyds.
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Yeah, it was very good. There was one intricate move we did in midfield that made a few meters despite perfect execution because they just read it so damn well.FtD wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 9:52 am Have to say, I'm excited to see what he can do with our defence. I've seen the Springboks up close now twice in the past few weeks (in Twickenham v the All Blacks and Saturday night in Paris) and have been blown away by the quality of their defence on both occasions.
If Nienaber is the architect (and it appears he is) then it's definitely exciting. Bernard Jackman was gushing in his praise of it on the 42 podcast, having discussed it on Friday night with Brian O'Driscoll and Dillan Leyds.
Easterby deserves praise too. Underrated asset for us.
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Yep I agree. Our defence functioned really well last year against lower ability opponents where they'd cough the ball up after a few phases. We didn't win enough turnovers through the Jackal and I don't think I can remember a single time we rucked over a ball like Ireland did a few times on Saturday.FtD wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 9:52 am Have to say, I'm excited to see what he can do with our defence. I've seen the Springboks up close now twice in the past few weeks (in Twickenham v the All Blacks and Saturday night in Paris) and have been blown away by the quality of their defence on both occasions.
If Nienaber is the architect (and it appears he is) then it's definitely exciting. Bernard Jackman was gushing in his praise of it on the 42 podcast, having discussed it on Friday night with Brian O'Driscoll and Dillan Leyds.
Boks defence on Saturday was immense, bar Bundees break and the try, we really struggled to make any yards during any phase of play and they always had a turnover threat. I'd love to see our defence evolve this way and would bring us up a level IMO.
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As long as we don't move to their combined strategy of eschewing possession.Observingprop123 wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 10:56 amYep I agree. Our defence functioned really well last year against lower ability opponents where they'd cough the ball up after a few phases. We didn't win enough turnovers through the Jackal and I don't think I can remember a single time we rucked over a ball like Ireland did a few times on Saturday.FtD wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 9:52 am Have to say, I'm excited to see what he can do with our defence. I've seen the Springboks up close now twice in the past few weeks (in Twickenham v the All Blacks and Saturday night in Paris) and have been blown away by the quality of their defence on both occasions.
If Nienaber is the architect (and it appears he is) then it's definitely exciting. Bernard Jackman was gushing in his praise of it on the 42 podcast, having discussed it on Friday night with Brian O'Driscoll and Dillan Leyds.
Boks defence on Saturday was immense, bar Bundees break and the try, we really struggled to make any yards during any phase of play and they always had a turnover threat. I'd love to see our defence evolve this way and would bring us up a level IMO.
Their gameplan (so far this year) appears to be based on simply not having the ball. Kicking possession away; aggressive defence; force mistakes; hope for penalties. Only on rare occasions, where there is a glaringly obvious mismatch/overlap, do they try to play rugby.
I would hate for us to play like that.
As Dora the Explorer would say: porque no los dos? Combine our existing attack with that defence.
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"Kicking possession away; aggressive defence; force mistakes; hope for penalties." If I remember correctly, we went down this road before with Matt O'Connor, an experience which does not require repeating, IMO.
Sure, it was a close run thing last Saturday, but barring our set piece struggles, I thought Ireland were the better team and their scramble defence superior to the Boks' rush one. Plus the Saffers offered very little in attack.
Sure, it was a close run thing last Saturday, but barring our set piece struggles, I thought Ireland were the better team and their scramble defence superior to the Boks' rush one. Plus the Saffers offered very little in attack.
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Boks game completely different to what you described there. They attack the ruck and go for Jackals and attempt to ruck over. The game plan you described there was the gameplan we used last year in our own half.riocard911 wrote: ↑September 27th, 2023, 9:35 am "Kicking possession away; aggressive defence; force mistakes; hope for penalties." If I remember correctly, we went down this road before with Matt O'Connor, an experience which does not require repeating, IMO.
Sure, it was a close run thing last Saturday, but barring our set piece struggles, I thought Ireland were the better team and their scramble defence superior to the Boks' rush one. Plus the Saffers offered very little in attack.
I'd assume the attack coach and defence coach would organise the gameplan of where we want to attack from. Leo Cullen also won't put us down to playing a reductive gameplan, he knows the way we play.
I'd highly disagree with Irelands defence being better aswell, saw a stat that we only made 41% gainline the boks made 51% gainline. They also stopped us time and time again in their own 22. I thought their defence was one of the best I've seen, and we struggled to produce opportunities. Their attack was abit blunter but that's the typical Boks gameplan.
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So you wouldn't put their attack being blunter down to the effectiveness of our scramble defence? Funny, that's how it looked to me, but I'm happy to be corrected.Observingprop123 wrote: ↑September 27th, 2023, 11:24 amBoks game completely different to what you described there. They attack the ruck and go for Jackals and attempt to ruck over. The game plan you described there was the gameplan we used last year in our own half.riocard911 wrote: ↑September 27th, 2023, 9:35 am "Kicking possession away; aggressive defence; force mistakes; hope for penalties." If I remember correctly, we went down this road before with Matt O'Connor, an experience which does not require repeating, IMO.
Sure, it was a close run thing last Saturday, but barring our set piece struggles, I thought Ireland were the better team and their scramble defence superior to the Boks' rush one. Plus the Saffers offered very little in attack.
I'd assume the attack coach and defence coach would organise the gameplan of where we want to attack from. Leo Cullen also won't put us down to playing a reductive gameplan, he knows the way we play.
I'd highly disagree with Irelands defence being better aswell, saw a stat that we only made 41% gainline the boks made 51% gainline. They also stopped us time and time again in their own 22. I thought their defence was one of the best I've seen, and we struggled to produce opportunities. Their attack was abit blunter but that's the typical Boks gameplan.