Neutral Stadium

[CollapsedMaul]

Just a thought. What if Leinster / IRFU accepted the mumbo jumbo about the Aviva? (Bear me out) would it hurt to play instead at Croke Park with an extra 30,000 Leinster fans?


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[wixfjord]

Any extra profit would be wiped out by rental costs, which, if Eddie Hearn is to be believed (and he's probably not), are very high.

[Schumi]

Plus it would still be a "home game" according to the complainers.

[cormac]

Just a thought. What if Leinster / IRFU accepted the mumbo jumbo about the Aviva? (Bear me out) would it hurt to play instead at Croke Park with an extra 30,000 Leinster fans?


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No guarantee that the GAA would even make it available.

[riocard911]

PuC anyone?

[CollapsedMaul]

Plus it would still be a "home game" according to the complainers.

Surely not? I understood the complaints were based on the fact the Leinster “upgrade” to the Aviva for pool games / knock out games thereby (to the detractors) being an alternative home ground. Leinster have played in Croker once? So genuinely neutral in any eyes you’d think?


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[CollapsedMaul]

PuC anyone?

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[Dexter]

It's outrageous that Leinster were made play their knock out games in a neutral ground and we couldn't use the RDS.
All the other last 16 teams were allowed use their home grounds. It's just not fair.

[BlockB]

PuC anyone?

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Páirc Uí Chaoimh

[Laighin Break]

Any extra profit would be wiped out by rental costs, which, if Eddie Hearn is to be believed (and he's probably not), are very high.

€400,000 I think I heard

[naraic]

Any extra profit would be wiped out by rental costs, which, if Eddie Hearn is to be believed (and he's probably not), are very high.

€400,000 I think I heard

It was 1.2-1.4 million depending on attendance back when the Aviva was being built.

We always get the worst possible deal out of the GAA.

[suisse]

I can understand playing semi finals at neutral grounds, but the argument for having a Plan B stadium for the final to be used at short notice, as championed by Joe Molloy, is utterly ridiculous. RoC, who is used to extreme hyperbole, was absolutely right when pointing out that Irish fans shouldn't be forced to travel for every final.

The final is in Dublin. If you want to have neutral semis, so be it. But who takes the blame when Leinster play Toulouse in front of 20,000 at a half full stadium in England when 51,000 can see the game in Dublin, or a similar number in France (if Toulouse have home advantage)?

Leinster have never won (or played) a European Final in Dublin. They've lost QFs and semi finals in Lansdowne Road and the Aviva. If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine. But they've traveled to Edinburgh, Cardiff, London, Bilbao and Newcastle for all 5 finals. Even if Toulouse beat Leinster in the semi, Irish fans with tickets should be entitled to watch a final without taking an airplane.

[D4surfer]

I can understand playing semi finals at neutral grounds, but the argument for having a Plan B stadium for the final to be used at short notice, as championed by Joe Molloy, is utterly ridiculous. RoC, who is used to extreme hyperbole, was absolutely right when pointing out that Irish fans shouldn't be forced to travel for every final.

The final is in Dublin. If you want to have neutral semis, so be it. But who takes the blame when Leinster play Toulouse in front of 20,000 at a half full stadium in England when 51,000 can see the game in Dublin, or a similar number in France (if Toulouse have home advantage)?

Leinster have never won (or played) a European Final in Dublin. They've lost QFs and semi finals in Lansdowne Road and the Aviva. If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine. But they've traveled to Edinburgh, Cardiff, London, Bilbao and Newcastle for all 5 finals. Even if Toulouse beat Leinster in the semi, Irish fans with tickets should be entitled to watch a final without taking an airplane.

You forgot Marseille. It cost me the best part of €1,000 to get there so my wife won’t let me forget.

[Oldschoolsocks]

I can understand playing semi finals at neutral grounds, but the argument for having a Plan B stadium for the final to be used at short notice, as championed by Joe Molloy, is utterly ridiculous. RoC, who is used to extreme hyperbole, was absolutely right when pointing out that Irish fans shouldn't be forced to travel for every final.

The final is in Dublin. If you want to have neutral semis, so be it. But who takes the blame when Leinster play Toulouse in front of 20,000 at a half full stadium in England when 51,000 can see the game in Dublin, or a similar number in France (if Toulouse have home advantage)?

Leinster have never won (or played) a European Final in Dublin. They've lost QFs and semi finals in Lansdowne Road and the Aviva. If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine. But they've traveled to Edinburgh, Cardiff, London, Bilbao and Newcastle for all 5 finals. Even if Toulouse beat Leinster in the semi, Irish fans with tickets should be entitled to watch a final without taking an airplane.

You forgot Marseille. It cost me the best part of €1,000 to get there so my wife won’t let me forget.

Hold on, Joe Molly is carrying water for Brian Moore and the Telegraph now? That’s a new low…

[CollapsedMaul]

I can understand playing semi finals at neutral grounds, but the argument for having a Plan B stadium for the final to be used at short notice, as championed by Joe Molloy, is utterly ridiculous. RoC, who is used to extreme hyperbole, was absolutely right when pointing out that Irish fans shouldn't be forced to travel for every final.

The final is in Dublin. If you want to have neutral semis, so be it. But who takes the blame when Leinster play Toulouse in front of 20,000 at a half full stadium in England when 51,000 can see the game in Dublin, or a similar number in France (if Toulouse have home advantage)?

Leinster have never won (or played) a European Final in Dublin. They've lost QFs and semi finals in Lansdowne Road and the Aviva. If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine. But they've traveled to Edinburgh, Cardiff, London, Bilbao and Newcastle for all 5 finals. Even if Toulouse beat Leinster in the semi, Irish fans with tickets should be entitled to watch a final without taking an airplane.

You forgot Marseille. It cost me the best part of €1,000 to get there so my wife won’t let me forget.

Hold on, Joe Molly is carrying water for Brian Moore and the Telegraph now? That’s a new low…

Nah think he was just being objective - which is reasonable from a journo


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[cormac]

I can understand playing semi finals at neutral grounds, but the argument for having a Plan B stadium for the final to be used at short notice, as championed by Joe Molloy, is utterly ridiculous. RoC, who is used to extreme hyperbole, was absolutely right when pointing out that Irish fans shouldn't be forced to travel for every final.

The final is in Dublin. If you want to have neutral semis, so be it. But who takes the blame when Leinster play Toulouse in front of 20,000 at a half full stadium in England when 51,000 can see the game in Dublin, or a similar number in France (if Toulouse have home advantage)?

Leinster have never won (or played) a European Final in Dublin. They've lost QFs and semi finals in Lansdowne Road and the Aviva. If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine. But they've traveled to Edinburgh, Cardiff, London, Bilbao and Newcastle for all 5 finals. Even if Toulouse beat Leinster in the semi, Irish fans with tickets should be entitled to watch a final without taking an airplane.

We have played and won a European Final in Dublin, just not a Heineken Cup Final.

[Oldschoolsocks]

You forgot Marseille. It cost me the best part of €1,000 to get there so my wife won’t let me forget.

Hold on, Joe Molly is carrying water for Brian Moore and the Telegraph now? That’s a new low…

Nah think he was just being objective - which is reasonable from a journo


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Was he though? It feels like every second or third Rugby talking point is a rehash of Brian Moore’s shitty little column.

I actually could be doing them a disservice here. I just can’t be bothered with Newstalk anymore, their love affair with all things Munster Rugby to the detriment of talking about the other provinces just turned me off them.

I mean, didn’t Gervaise un-ironically say “Leinster literally owe everything to that GREAT MUNSTER SIDE” without being challenged on it at all?

Pure lazy shite if you ask me…

[jezzer]

Would it be any different if Edinburgh was the powerhouse team? They'd have bigger games in Murrayfield and then when Scotland get their go at a final it'd be in.... Murrayfield.

Quins and Twickers would be the same. Cardiff and Millennium ditto.

[Twist]

If they had won this 10 years straight with every knock-out and final taking place in Dublin, fine.

As a Kildare football fan, who hasn’t seen the Dubs play a Leinster championship match at our place since 1989, I can tell you it gets old fast!

[Twist]

Hold on, Joe Molly is carrying water for Brian Moore and the Telegraph now? That’s a new low…

Nah think he was just being objective - which is reasonable from a journo


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Was he though? It feels like every second or third Rugby talking point is a rehash of Brian Moore’s shitty little column.

I actually could be doing them a disservice here. I just can’t be bothered with Newstalk anymore, their love affair with all things Munster Rugby to the detriment of talking about the other provinces just turned me off them.

I mean, didn’t Gervaise un-ironically say “Leinster literally owe everything to that GREAT MUNSTER SIDE” without being challenged on it at all?

Pure lazy shite if you ask me…

Pretty much, yeah.

https://spotify.link/kszTjA6b1yb

28.43 “But yet they owe it all literally to Munster….”