Taking media & other coverage of Leinster to the next level
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I have finally given up on Against The Head. Skin deep analysis of the Ireland/provincial teams followed by 30 seconds clips from a couple of AIL matches and a couple of tries from the other URC matches. And of course "go easy"
Really dull dreary stuff. They should realise that the vast majority of rugby fans have already watched highlights on YouTube or elsewhere by Monday night so it's a waste of time churning them out again. During the NZ tour I used to watch on YouTube that programme with Isa, Kirwan and Boss and their approach was more dynamic just using the footage to analyse turning points or important incidents in the match. They clearly assumed that the viewers had seen the match already.
The one good development in recent times has been the canning of the exceptionally irritating Toland. Time for Eddie to be put out to grass too. A bit of invention would be nice, say Mike Ross doing a piece on scrummaging or Rory Best on line outs or Rob K explaining the intricacies of back 3 play.
It's such a lazy use of an hour at the moment and I couldn't be arsed watching it anymore.
Really dull dreary stuff. They should realise that the vast majority of rugby fans have already watched highlights on YouTube or elsewhere by Monday night so it's a waste of time churning them out again. During the NZ tour I used to watch on YouTube that programme with Isa, Kirwan and Boss and their approach was more dynamic just using the footage to analyse turning points or important incidents in the match. They clearly assumed that the viewers had seen the match already.
The one good development in recent times has been the canning of the exceptionally irritating Toland. Time for Eddie to be put out to grass too. A bit of invention would be nice, say Mike Ross doing a piece on scrummaging or Rory Best on line outs or Rob K explaining the intricacies of back 3 play.
It's such a lazy use of an hour at the moment and I couldn't be arsed watching it anymore.
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I think you're wrong about the vast majority of fans having watched highlights on YouTube. The vast majority of fans using this site, if they didn't watch the match already, certainly watched highlights on YouTube, but we are a small cohort of fans generally. The majority of the target audience for ATH is the casual fan, which includes a lot of people who wouldn't even think to go on YouTube to look up highlights of a match. It's Match of the Day for Irish rugby.enby wrote: ↑January 12th, 2023, 4:54 am I have finally given up on Against The Head. Skin deep analysis of the Ireland/provincial teams followed by 30 seconds clips from a couple of AIL matches and a couple of tries from the other URC matches. And of course "go easy"
Really dull dreary stuff. They should realise that the vast majority of rugby fans have already watched highlights on YouTube or elsewhere by Monday night so it's a waste of time churning them out again. During the NZ tour I used to watch on YouTube that programme with Isa, Kirwan and Boss and their approach was more dynamic just using the footage to analyse turning points or important incidents in the match. They clearly assumed that the viewers had seen the match already.
The one good development in recent times has been the canning of the exceptionally irritating Toland. Time for Eddie to be put out to grass too. A bit of invention would be nice, say Mike Ross doing a piece on scrummaging or Rory Best on line outs or Rob K explaining the intricacies of back 3 play.
It's such a lazy use of an hour at the moment and I couldn't be arsed watching it anymore.
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I have an analogy for this, we're like the leaving cert student who gets 625 points. Yeah, they'll parade us around on Six-1 news when we achieve full marks (i.e. reach and win a final), but they're not showing our mocks, Christmas results and what have you. We simply don't receive airtime for everything we do right/well as it not a narrative the casual fan is invested in, the same reason you only hear from Lorcan in Skibbereen who hopes to do Actuarial and Financial Studies in August.
The exception to this is when we fail, as Irish people love a bit schadenfreude.
The exception to this is when we fail, as Irish people love a bit schadenfreude.
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Perhaps but we are the only viewers that matterjoooooe wrote: ↑January 12th, 2023, 10:25 amI think you're wrong about the vast majority of fans having watched highlights on YouTube. The vast majority of fans using this site, if they didn't watch the match already, certainly watched highlights on YouTube, but we are a small cohort of fans generally. The majority of the target audience for ATH is the casual fan, which includes a lot of people who wouldn't even think to go on YouTube to look up highlights of a match. It's Match of the Day for Irish rugby.enby wrote: ↑January 12th, 2023, 4:54 am I have finally given up on Against The Head. Skin deep analysis of the Ireland/provincial teams followed by 30 seconds clips from a couple of AIL matches and a couple of tries from the other URC matches. And of course "go easy"
Really dull dreary stuff. They should realise that the vast majority of rugby fans have already watched highlights on YouTube or elsewhere by Monday night so it's a waste of time churning them out again. During the NZ tour I used to watch on YouTube that programme with Isa, Kirwan and Boss and their approach was more dynamic just using the footage to analyse turning points or important incidents in the match. They clearly assumed that the viewers had seen the match already.
The one good development in recent times has been the canning of the exceptionally irritating Toland. Time for Eddie to be put out to grass too. A bit of invention would be nice, say Mike Ross doing a piece on scrummaging or Rory Best on line outs or Rob K explaining the intricacies of back 3 play.
It's such a lazy use of an hour at the moment and I couldn't be arsed watching it anymore.
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New one out todayRuckedtobits wrote: ↑January 11th, 2023, 6:12 pm
+1 but encourage the Moles into more regular production!
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The transition from Ulster to Munster (snakes & ladders) was beautifulchrismcc wrote: ↑January 12th, 2023, 1:55 pmNew one out todayRuckedtobits wrote: ↑January 11th, 2023, 6:12 pm
+1 but encourage the Moles into more regular production!
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It's my favourite rugby content outside of a good match.
Great, informed, genuine, respectful (but hard hitting) discussion without clunky technical reviews and stats.
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Wonderful to see 3 Leinster players as the main photo in this general round-up article
https://www.the42.ie/irish-provinces-ch ... 9-Jan2023/
https://www.the42.ie/irish-provinces-ch ... 9-Jan2023/
Calendar of Leinster/Ireland fixtures: https://calendar.google.com/calendar?ci ... Z2xlLmNvbQ
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Bravo!deco wrote: ↑January 13th, 2023, 2:08 pm Wonderful to see 3 Leinster players as the main photo in this general round-up article
https://www.the42.ie/irish-provinces-ch ... 9-Jan2023/
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I shamefully never listened to the Molecast before, despite reading many of the blog posts and seeing it mentioned here a bunch of times.
Listened to the latest episode last night and I like it. Also never copped on to the origin of the name until I listened to the episode
Listened to the latest episode last night and I like it. Also never copped on to the origin of the name until I listened to the episode
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And the only one representing Leinster is from Connacht!deco wrote: ↑January 13th, 2023, 2:08 pm Wonderful to see 3 Leinster players as the main photo in this general round-up article
https://www.the42.ie/irish-provinces-ch ... 9-Jan2023/
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Welcome to another admirer. Although there's nothing recent on it, there's also an associated Blog The Demented Mole, which has some super analytical rugby pieces.Serb wrote: ↑January 13th, 2023, 5:40 pm I shamefully never listened to the Molecast before, despite reading many of the blog posts and seeing it mentioned here a bunch of times.
Listened to the latest episode last night and I like it. Also never copped on to the origin of the name until I listened to the episode
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Their only failing is their love for South Dublin’s version of Toulon, apart from that they’re great!!!Serb wrote: ↑January 13th, 2023, 5:40 pm I shamefully never listened to the Molecast before, despite reading many of the blog posts and seeing it mentioned here a bunch of times.
Listened to the latest episode last night and I like it. Also never copped on to the origin of the name until I listened to the episode
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This extraordinarily long article is about a pool game from 11 years ago, in a season when Leinster were repeating the Heineken Cup, Ulster lost in the final and Munster lost at home in the QF.
https://www.the42.ie/ronan-ogara-drop-g ... 1-Jan2023/
I think it's a good illustration of the extent to which we'll always be different, but I also think that's a good thing. I think most Leinster fans wouldn't actually want that level of bullshit.
https://www.the42.ie/ronan-ogara-drop-g ... 1-Jan2023/
I think it's a good illustration of the extent to which we'll always be different, but I also think that's a good thing. I think most Leinster fans wouldn't actually want that level of bullshit.
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I certainly don't. Immediately on seeing the headline in the42 yesterday, I thought: "Skip that rubbish".ronk wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 8:38 am This extraordinarily long article is about a pool game from 11 years ago, in a season when Leinster were repeating the Heineken Cup, Ulster lost in the final and Munster lost at home in the QF.
https://www.the42.ie/ronan-ogara-drop-g ... 1-Jan2023/
I think it's a good illustration of the extent to which we'll always be different, but I also think that's a good thing. I think most Leinster fans wouldn't actually want that level of bullshit.
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I see Gavan Casey has slipped comfortably into the Garry Doyle role.ronk wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 8:38 am This extraordinarily long article is about a pool game from 11 years ago, in a season when Leinster were repeating the Heineken Cup, Ulster lost in the final and Munster lost at home in the QF.
https://www.the42.ie/ronan-ogara-drop-g ... 1-Jan2023/
I think it's a good illustration of the extent to which we'll always be different, but I also think that's a good thing. I think most Leinster fans wouldn't actually want that level of bullshit.
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Phone rings.
Mirror speaking.
Ah the very man.
Yesterday is exactly the kind of example I was talking to about Mirror.
Munster scrape hope after an heroic performance by 14 men against the highly vaunted (ok I know that's stretching it a bit but this is the media thread) Saints.
Edge of the seat stuff, right down to the wire.
All the stuff I was telling you about Mirror.
Yeah Gerry I saw that, but look at Leinster an almost flawless result (ok I know that's stretching it a bit but this is the media thread).
Ask yourself though Mirror, who cares, ALL the talk is about Munster and will be for the rest of the week.
So ask yourself Mirror in the light of earlier discussions can you now see why Munster's way is the way to go.
Food for though alright Gerry, talk soon.
Phone rings,
Leo speaking.
To be continued........
Mirror speaking.
Ah the very man.
Yesterday is exactly the kind of example I was talking to about Mirror.
Munster scrape hope after an heroic performance by 14 men against the highly vaunted (ok I know that's stretching it a bit but this is the media thread) Saints.
Edge of the seat stuff, right down to the wire.
All the stuff I was telling you about Mirror.
Yeah Gerry I saw that, but look at Leinster an almost flawless result (ok I know that's stretching it a bit but this is the media thread).
Ask yourself though Mirror, who cares, ALL the talk is about Munster and will be for the rest of the week.
So ask yourself Mirror in the light of earlier discussions can you now see why Munster's way is the way to go.
Food for though alright Gerry, talk soon.
Phone rings,
Leo speaking.
To be continued........
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall who's the greatest player of them all? It is Drico your majesty.
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Another Munster borefest on OTB AM , dud they even watch our game!!
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Did Leinster have a match this weekend ?
Too excited myself about the last stand in Thomond where the heroic 14 men in red overcame all the odds to get past the titanic mid table premiership side......
Too excited myself about the last stand in Thomond where the heroic 14 men in red overcame all the odds to get past the titanic mid table premiership side......
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The good thing about OTB Rugby now being on Spotify is, that the shows are chopped up into individual sections. This meant I was able yesterday to listen exclusively to Andy Dunne waxing lyrical about the Leinster performance in Kingsholm and to skip completely the snoozefest re Munster's nearly blowing an almost unassailabe first half lead in Thomond on Saturday. Hallelujah!!!