RDS redevelopment

[Ray Donovan]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

[LeinsterLeader]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

You sure? That doesn't sound great for 50 million quid

[Serb]

Expected that the grandstand wouldn’t be touched, but it’ll be shocking if the north and south stands don’t get cover for that amount of money.

[paddyor]

Expected that the grandstand wouldn’t be touched, but it’ll be shocking if the north and south stands don’t get cover for that amount of money.

It would be really expensive to put in cover that had to be removable for the horsehow.

[johng]

...or just pay the very reasonable subscription for what's a decent newspaper.

Is it not €3 a week? €156 a year for what they offer is far from reasonable, it’s an absolute rip off imo. More expensive than Netflix, Spotify, URC TV etc

Holy god is it that much

I think I get the new york times AND the Guardian for less than that.

[wixfjord]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

That was always the plans from the beginning though.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/winners-of ... announced/

It's a big price tag, but construction inflation has obviously played into the cost as well.

[LeinsterLeader]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

That was always the plans from the beginning though.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/winners-of ... announced/

It's a big price tag, but construction inflation has obviously played into the cost as well.

Fair enough but is the reality of that then that the majority of the fans are not going to benefit (much) from the upgrade, apart from having a new stand to look at?

[The Doc]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

That was always the plans from the beginning though.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/winners-of ... announced/

It's a big price tag, but construction inflation has obviously played into the cost as well.

Fair enough but is the reality of that then that the majority of the fans are not going to benefit (much) from the upgrade, apart from having a new stand to look at?

The Grandstand is fine. The Anglesea is dreadful - so changing that is a major benefit (and it includes some hospitality I believe) and the terrace probably gets less restricted views. The North and South are temporary stands so don't see how they can be covered - maybe the South could be adjusted to become permanent but would probably have to be further back - which wouldn't be popular I suspect. So I don't get what people are expecting

[jezzer]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

That was always the plans from the beginning though.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/winners-of ... announced/

It's a big price tag, but construction inflation has obviously played into the cost as well.

Aka GOUGING

[Blue Man]

Redev is really important for the club. It’ll enhance corporate earnings potential and improve the match day experience for those in the Anglesea.
It’s highly unlikely, but I really think they should add a Gloucester style terrace and boxes at the North end. This should:
- better utilize the land (steeper foundations)
- not impact on horse show
- maintain capacity (through standing)
- shelter those in the terrace
- increase overall revenue

In really excited about the redev and hope it shows vision and ambition.

[heno]

I remember an old proposal where the redevelopment was all 4 sides. But not just rectangles like Ravenhill, the 4 corners were built up for boxes, studios, etc. But these provided the support for a single oval roof over everybody. The North and south stand could be removed and the roof would still be there above the horses.

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[wixfjord]

It’ll be a stadium upgrade in name but really it’ll be a 1/4 stadium upgrade.

Anglesea Stand will be replaced. Grandstand will remain and uncovered stands will remain. And they’ll remain Uncovered unfortunately.

And that will be €50million please and thank you.

That was always the plans from the beginning though.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/winners-of ... announced/

It's a big price tag, but construction inflation has obviously played into the cost as well.

Fair enough but is the reality of that then that the majority of the fans are not going to benefit (much) from the upgrade, apart from having a new stand to look at?

But that's always been the plan - redevelop the Anglesea stand.

The capacity of the ground will increase and there'll be proper corporate and other facilities.

The plans have never been to roof the north/south stands since they need to be moved/dismantled for the Horse Show iirc.

[wixfjord]

Redev is really important for the club. It’ll enhance corporate earnings potential and improve the match day experience for those in the Anglesea.
It’s highly unlikely, but I really think they should add a Gloucester style terrace and boxes at the North end. This should:
- better utilize the land (steeper foundations)
- not impact on horse show
- maintain capacity (through standing)
- shelter those in the terrace
- increase overall revenue

In really excited about the redev and hope it shows vision and ambition.

Why would it not impact the Horse Show? Don't both North & South stands need to be moved for it?

[Serb]

Honestly I think this whole redevelopment is Leinster's largest fail in the past decade. If you look at what both Munster and Ulster got for €40 million and €20 million respectively, versus what we're likely going to end up with for probably the cost of both the other provinces combined, it's poor. We had the plans and the money a decade ago, we just dragged our heels. I wonder if there were questions around the RDS being our long term home in the background that made the management hesitate to commit?

All the same, it will still be an excellent change to nuke the Anglesea and replace it with a modern day stand, and add a bit of corporate hospitality too. It's just a shame the north and south stands can't get some kind of upgrade.

[ronk]

Honestly I think this whole redevelopment is Leinster's largest fail in the past decade. If you look at what both Munster and Ulster got for €40 million and €20 million respectively, versus what we're likely going to end up with for probably the cost of both the other provinces combined, it's poor. We had the plans and the money a decade ago, we just dragged our heels. I wonder if there were questions around the RDS being our long term home in the background that made the management hesitate to commit?

All the same, it will still be an excellent change to nuke the Anglesea and replace it with a modern day stand, and add a bit of corporate hospitality too. It's just a shame the north and south stands can't get some kind of upgrade.

Leinster were 1 moving part of a system that needed the RDS, Leinster, IRFU and government to come together, along probably with hosting the RWC.

The government were dealing with the bank bailout, the IRFU were bailing out Munster, commercial funding took a dive with the economy and the English and French clubs were off destroying the Heineken Cup, the top-end driver of matchday revenue. Switching matches to Aviva both created an alternative route to income generation and lowered the potential of RDS development.

Construction inflation means that we probably would have been better off going alone without government funding, if necessary. But that still would have needed the RDS to be able to fund it. And it was really unlikely given the mood 10 years ago.

[paddyor]

Honestly I think this whole redevelopment is Leinster's largest fail in the past decade. If you look at what both Munster and Ulster got for €40 million and €20 million respectively, versus what we're likely going to end up with for probably the cost of both the other provinces combined, it's poor. We had the plans and the money a decade ago, we just dragged our heels. I wonder if there were questions around the RDS being our long term home in the background that made the management hesitate to commit?

All the same, it will still be an excellent change to nuke the Anglesea and replace it with a modern day stand, and add a bit of corporate hospitality too. It's just a shame the north and south stands can't get some kind of upgrade.

Thomson’s was a mistake and hamstrung Munster for the better part of a decade they’d have been fooked without the generosity of the IRFU. They fill it maybe 3/4 times a year.

We get good value out of the RDS as is, only really full it maybe twice a year and can move fixtures to the Aviva if the need gets much bigger. Plus the way investments are weighted Covid would have blown up the business plan if we’d actually gotten it completed in 18-20.

[Dave Cahill]

If you look at what both Munster... got for €40 million

Ah come on now. Whatever about Ravenhill (and that was a unique development that couldn't happen anywhere else in these islands), the Thomond Park redevelopment was a hubristic disaster that was massively detrimental to Munster on and off the pitch. Eircom Park was a more successful project!

[wixfjord]

One of the key points here is that we don't need a bigger stadium.

We already struggle to fill the RDS.

We need a better stadium with proper corporate facilities.

The lack of quality corporate facilities is an enormous missed opportunity.

For obvious reasons Leinster Rugby should be one of the biggest corporate draws in the country.

If we get an extra 3-4,000 people into the stadium that's brilliant, and of course better facilities attract more fans, but it's a secondary concern.

[ronk]

One of the key points here is that we don't need a bigger stadium.

We already struggle to fill the RDS.

We need a better stadium with proper corporate facilities.

The lack of quality corporate facilities is an enormous missed opportunity.

For obvious reasons Leinster Rugby should be one of the biggest corporate draws in the country.

If we get an extra 3-4,000 people into the stadium that's brilliant, and of course better facilities attract more fans, but it's a secondary concern.

Yes. It also means that the development will either have no effect on a significant number of fans or will raise their prices.

[paddyor]

One of the key points here is that we don't need a bigger stadium.

We already struggle to fill the RDS.

We need a better stadium with proper corporate facilities.

The lack of quality corporate facilities is an enormous missed opportunity.

For obvious reasons Leinster Rugby should be one of the biggest corporate draws in the country.

If we get an extra 3-4,000 people into the stadium that's brilliant, and of course better facilities attract more fans, but it's a secondary concern.

Yeah this is where I am. And it's worth remembering it won't be ours so this is more a nice to have than must have.