ROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Was great on the tough days but also never let us down in bigger games.
Adam Byrne though? That's some serious revisionism.
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ROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Both certainly had games to forget. D'Arce was especially critical of RussellDave Cahill wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 2:53 pm A performance that mixed the good with the dreadful, but it's five points. Jamie Heaslip makes the point that this was in effect our second pre-season match. I don't like to single out young players for criticism but I thought that Max O'Reilly and Rob Russell looked far off the pace. Having said that, some of their more experienced teammates didn't look much better. Jenkins and Ed Byrne looked good.
I was saying the same thing during the match.Dave Cahill wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 2:53 pm A performance that mixed the good with the dreadful, but it's five points. Jamie Heaslip makes the point that this was in effect our second pre-season match. I don't like to single out young players for criticism but I thought that Max O'Reilly and Rob Russell looked far off the pace. Having said that, some of their more experienced teammates didn't look much better. Jenkins and Ed Byrne looked good.
You mean the Irish capped Adam Byrne who has scored 24 tries in 66 games, including in Euro knockouts? You think that Adam Byrne isn't an upgrade on Rob Russell on today's performance?curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:26 pmROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Was great on the tough days but also never let us down in bigger games.
Adam Byrne though? That's some serious revisionism.
There's no way that can be true though.Ruckedtobits wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:45 pm As an aside, Bradley's brief summary of how and why Jenkins ended up with us was a revelation and explains a lot and also gives me confidence that we will see his best in Blue, Yellow and White.
Adam Byrne was prolific in attack. When fit.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:51 pmYou mean the Irish capped Adam Byrne who has scored 24 tries in 66 games, including in Euro knockouts? You think that Adam Byrne isn't an upgrade on Rob Russell on today's performance?curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:26 pmROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Was great on the tough days but also never let us down in bigger games.
Adam Byrne though? That's some serious revisionism.
Adam Byrne may have had a few forgettable outings for Leinster but he's several levels above Rob Russell in terms of ability and performances.curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:26 pmROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Was great on the tough days but also never let us down in bigger games.
Adam Byrne though? That's some serious revisionism.
He's a senior test capped player who scored loads of tries in mid level away league games over the years.curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:59 pmAdam Byrne was prolific in attack. When fit.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:51 pmYou mean the Irish capped Adam Byrne who has scored 24 tries in 66 games, including in Euro knockouts? You think that Adam Byrne isn't an upgrade on Rob Russell on today's performance?curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:26 pm
ROL will definitely leave a big hole, particularly with COB being unfortunately forced to retire.
Was great on the tough days but also never let us down in bigger games.
Adam Byrne though? That's some serious revisionism.
But the poor guy was injured so much. Your stat says it all: 66 caps...in 10 years.
And defence was never his strength.
The claim that we missed him today is revisionism on that basis.
I'm wasn't comparing him with Rob Russell: I was taking issue with the claim that he was a player who dragged us through tough away days. He unfortunately never played or got to play that role for us.
I hope it works out for him in Connacht, and that he can stay fit and play that role for them.
It must have been a clerical error, when they were renewing their locks they forgot about him because they had him listed as a backrow.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:54 pmThere's no way that can be true though.Ruckedtobits wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:45 pm As an aside, Bradley's brief summary of how and why Jenkins ended up with us was a revelation and explains a lot and also gives me confidence that we will see his best in Blue, Yellow and White.
Munster just forgot to offer him a contract?
Would have had to been signed off by IRFU in any case.
OTT wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 4:13 pmIt must have been a clerical error, when they were renewing their locks they forgot about him because they had him listed as a backrow.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:54 pmThere's no way that can be true though.Ruckedtobits wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:45 pm As an aside, Bradley's brief summary of how and why Jenkins ended up with us was a revelation and explains a lot and also gives me confidence that we will see his best in Blue, Yellow and White.
Munster just forgot to offer him a contract?
Would have had to been signed off by IRFU in any case.
Our depth wasn't tested in attack though. And I said he was very good in attack.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 4:06 pmHe's a senior test capped player who scored loads of tries in mid level away league games over the years.curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:59 pmAdam Byrne was prolific in attack. When fit.
But the poor guy was injured so much. Your stat says it all: 66 caps...in 10 years.
And defence was never his strength.
The claim that we missed him today is revisionism on that basis.
I'm wasn't comparing him with Rob Russell: I was taking issue with the claim that he was a player who dragged us through tough away days. He unfortunately never played or got to play that role for us.
I hope it works out for him in Connacht, and that he can stay fit and play that role for them.
The comment wasn't that he 'dragged us through tough days', it was that we missed him on days like this when depth is tested. He's a totally different level to our #14 today.
Of course he's missed when you look at how poorly our backline played.
Did you forget him scoring a decisive try in a European QF against Ulster btw?
Yes god forbid you're pulled up on a nonsense point you've made (and then try to backtrack out of it).curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 4:21 pmOur depth wasn't tested in attack though. And I said he was very good in attack.wixfjord wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 4:06 pmHe's a senior test capped player who scored loads of tries in mid level away league games over the years.curates_egg wrote: ↑September 17th, 2022, 3:59 pm
Adam Byrne was prolific in attack. When fit.
But the poor guy was injured so much. Your stat says it all: 66 caps...in 10 years.
And defence was never his strength.
The claim that we missed him today is revisionism on that basis.
I'm wasn't comparing him with Rob Russell: I was taking issue with the claim that he was a player who dragged us through tough away days. He unfortunately never played or got to play that role for us.
I hope it works out for him in Connacht, and that he can stay fit and play that role for them.
The comment wasn't that he 'dragged us through tough days', it was that we missed him on days like this when depth is tested. He's a totally different level to our #14 today.
Of course he's missed when you look at how poorly our backline played.
Did you forget him scoring a decisive try in a European QF against Ulster btw?
My point was (a) more often than not he was unfortunately missing on days like this and (b) his strengths were not what we were missing today.
Jesus. You'd argue with yourself. It's a while since I've been on the receiving end from you but I suppose it's my turn again today.
Here, why don't you watch this montage of his tries instead of arguing with me again over something I didn't say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9EdAO_ZuA