No, but wouldn’t it be gas if it happened at Munster’s expense.
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Interesting to know that Munster aren't qualified yet. Might be before their next URC match though.
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I think for that to happen the team that lose the Scots derby would have to win the CC. Ulster and the Bulls would have to win BUT leave the sharks a bonus point. AND Munster would have to get nothing v us.
Oh. And Stormers would have to win in Wales.
If we are still in the heino I can see us not playing our top team in the fixture.
Personally. Would I rather a Scottish team in the Heino at the expense of an Irish one? Nah. Never. Even Munster
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Eh, the Scots don't have the media cheerleaders and the TRK tripe spreaders showering their every success with praise and ignoring their every failure. I'd love for Munster to not make the last 8 and the HC. Love it.johng wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 10:11 amI think for that to happen the team that lose the Scots derby would have to win the CC. Ulster and the Bulls would have to win BUT leave the sharks a bonus point. AND Munster would have to get nothing v us.
Oh. And Stormers would have to win in Wales.
If we are still in the heino I can see us not playing our top team in the fixture.
Personally. Would I rather a Scottish team in the Heino at the expense of an Irish one? Nah. Never. Even Munster
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I’ve just checked and the winners of the URC are guaranteed qualification for the Heineken Cup. That’s another way that both Edinburgh and Glasgow could qualify at the expense of an Irish or SA side. Unlikely I know, but probably more likely than one of them winning the Challenge Cup.
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Do you think beating Saracens in Marseille is harder than beating Leinster in Dublin? I don't. Even if you do, you also have to assume the rest of the URC fixtures the Scottish side would face in the top 8 would be easier than the challenge cup teams, which isn't that clear given that they are Heineken cup level teams by definition.D4surfer wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 10:48 am I’ve just checked and the winners of the URC are guaranteed qualification for the Heineken Cup. That’s another way that both Edinburgh and Glasgow could qualify at the expense of an Irish or SA side. Unlikely I know, but probably more likely than one of them winning the Challenge Cup.
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I was just pointing out the theoretical though unlikely ways that both Scottish sides could qualify for the Heineken Cup.CiaranIrl wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 11:19 amDo you think beating Saracens in Marseille is harder than beating Leinster in Dublin? I don't. Even if you do, you also have to assume the rest of the URC fixtures the Scottish side would face in the top 8 would be easier than the challenge cup teams, which isn't that clear given that they are Heineken cup level teams by definition.D4surfer wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 10:48 am I’ve just checked and the winners of the URC are guaranteed qualification for the Heineken Cup. That’s another way that both Edinburgh and Glasgow could qualify at the expense of an Irish or SA side. Unlikely I know, but probably more likely than one of them winning the Challenge Cup.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 6:48 am So, with one week to:
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- Most League points
Leinster - 62 to date:
- Most Wins
Leinster - 12 to date
- Most Match Points scored:
Leinster - 511 to date:
- Least Points conceded
Leinster - 251 to date:
- Most Bonus Points scored
Leinster - 14 to date:
- Least Defeats conceded
Stormers - 4 to date:
- Most Trys scored
??:
- Least Tries conceded
??Can anyone fill in the missing Stats and possibly include Most / Least Red and Yellow Cards?
BTW, does anyone know who used the most players in the League this Season?
Players Leinster 59 Benetton 52 Scarlets 52 Zebre 51 Munster 50 Stormers 48 Edinburgh 47 Sharks 47 Ulster 46 Connacht 45 Dragons 45 Glasgow 45 Cardiff 44 Bulls 43 Ospreys 43 Lions 42
YC RC Munster 4 1 Edinburgh 5 1 Bulls 6 2 Glasgow 7 0 Leinster 7 0 Lions 8 0 Ospreys 8 0 Ulster 8 0 Benetton 9 1 Scarlets 9 1 Zebre 9 1 Dragons 11 1 Sharks 11 1 Stormers 12 0 Cardiff 12 1 Connacht 12 2
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That's fantastic. Thanks @Xanthippe.
Not a great look for Connacht but probably part of the reason their position does not seem to reflect their playing ability and style.
Not a great look for Connacht but probably part of the reason their position does not seem to reflect their playing ability and style.
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The yellow cards in SA look a little different now after looking at that table.
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Actually the tour also accounts for players used.
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It's really annoying - we had three cards from the 15 games prior to the trip and then four from 2 games
Well it accounts for five of the 59 - we'd used 54 players in the 15 games up to then
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I'd really like to see the card count for all teams playing away in SA. It seemed as if every away team had a couple of cards per game.
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Only thing it was non SA refs that did the matches. I still can’t get over how the stormers didn’t get at least 1 yellow cardthe spoofer wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2022, 3:23 pmI'd really like to see the card count for all teams playing away in SA. It seemed as if every away team had a couple of cards per game.
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Would they not get in at the expense of the Scottish side?D4surfer wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 8:45 amGlasgow and Edinburgh are still in the Challenge Cup. If one of them wins it and is not already qualified for the Heineken Cup, they will get in at the expense of an Irish or SA team.johng wrote: ↑May 1st, 2022, 8:29 amOk not exactly Nostradamus level prediction skills required there.
So. If the Stormers and the Bulls win in Wales and Ulster beat the Sharks in Ravenhill (a decent enough bet) we become judge, jury and executioner as to Munster's home QF.
Cue shouts of "IRFU fix" from Wales if they beat us.
Scottish teams can't get top 4 no matter the score between them and the loser is guaranteed out of the Heino and a game v us in the RDS.
All down to the 4 games mentioned above for the home spots.
Possible to get 3 saffer teams in the top 4 and also possible to get 3 Irish.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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Euro qualification is determined by "conference" league position right? And then seeding by playoff and keague position. I'd imagine if Glasgow or Edinburgh qin the CC they'll take conference top position.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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Nevermind. Them rules are dumb.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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I stole this from another forum to show just how crazy the rules are.
So a hypothetical league table with Champions Cup qualification status could look like this:
1st Leinster (Q - Irish Shield);
2nd Ulster (Q - league placing);
3rd Stormers (Q - SA Shield);
4th Sharks;
5th Munster (Q - Champ Cup winners);
6th Bulls (Q - URC winners);
7th Glasgow (Q - Scottish/Italian Shield);
8th Edinburgh (Q - Challenge Cup winners);
9th Scarlets (Q - Welsh Shield)
leaving 4th placed Sharks as the odd ones out and dropping into the Challenge Cup.
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Yep, it's URC Winner, HEC Winner, CC Winner, Shield winnerx 4, League Placing x n. Conferences are a bit dumb in this regardD4surfer wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2022, 5:37 pmI stole this from another forum to show just how crazy the rules are.
So a hypothetical league table with Champions Cup qualification status could look like this:
1st Leinster (Q - Irish Shield);
2nd Ulster (Q - league placing);
3rd Stormers (Q - SA Shield);
4th Sharks;
5th Munster (Q - Champ Cup winners);
6th Bulls (Q - URC winners);
7th Glasgow (Q - Scottish/Italian Shield);
8th Edinburgh (Q - Challenge Cup winners);
9th Scarlets (Q - Welsh Shield)
leaving 4th placed Sharks as the odd ones out and dropping into the Challenge Cup.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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Any danger of one of these for the last 4 rounds? Feels like the round after next will be pretty crucial
Cardiff (9) @ Zebre (16) - potential banana skin for Cardiff needing to stay above Os/Scarlets
Stormers (2) @ Leinster (1) - Possibly (but unlikely) a fully loaded stormers coming up, against team between the 6N and Ulster R16
Lions (12) @ Benetton (10)
Dragons (15) @ ospreys (13) -
Edinburgh (11) @ Connacht (8) - win or die game for both
Sharks (7) @ Scarlets (14)
Glasgow (4) @ Munster (5) - huge game in the shake up for playoffs/top 4
Bulls (6) @ Ulster (3) - huge game in the shake up for top 4
Cardiff (9) @ Zebre (16) - potential banana skin for Cardiff needing to stay above Os/Scarlets
Stormers (2) @ Leinster (1) - Possibly (but unlikely) a fully loaded stormers coming up, against team between the 6N and Ulster R16
Lions (12) @ Benetton (10)
Dragons (15) @ ospreys (13) -
Edinburgh (11) @ Connacht (8) - win or die game for both
Sharks (7) @ Scarlets (14)
Glasgow (4) @ Munster (5) - huge game in the shake up for playoffs/top 4
Bulls (6) @ Ulster (3) - huge game in the shake up for top 4