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Dave Cahill wrote: January 13th, 2023, 3:06 pm There is no access in professional football at approaching the highest level that isn't closely managed.
I was doing sound on an interview with an irish international soccer player about nothing to do with football (and we wouldn't be asking about football). Present were someone from the FAI press office, his clubs press office (!), someone from a sponsor and his agent. We had to clear the topic and the questions in advance along with an outline of the piece we were filming
Anything and everything to protect the "brand"/"product", it would seem.

Your anecdote, Dave, only reinforces, IMO, what I was saying about mid-match interviews with coaches. I have never heard even one, where the coach actually said something I dIdn't already know from watching the game up to that point, which means, in other words, that his talking into the microphone and their interruption of the audio stream attention to matters on-field was totally superfluous - other than in allowing the broadcasters maintain the charade, that they leave no stone unturned in their efforts to keep their punters "entertained" and/or "informed".
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It appears that only Ulster, beaten 7-3 in La Rochelle, Lions to Stade Francais and Zebre, beaten at home in the Challenge Cup, were the only URC losing teams in Europe this weekend. So 13 winning performances with all four Welsh teams, both Scottish teams, one Italian and three S African & Irish winners. Whereas, thus far, only three Premiership winners and three French Top 14 winners.

So, a fairly comprehensive picture of the ascendancy of the URC as the strongest League in Europe. It will be fascinating to see whether this dominance carries through to the qualifiers after next week's final Pool games.

No matter how the Anglo-French domination of the EPCR Board tried to screw the two European competitions to favour their Leagues, it is now evident that outside of two or three Clubs in each of those Leagues, the URC has stronger, more competitive, teams.
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Ruckedtobits wrote: January 15th, 2023, 3:06 pm It appears that only Ulster, beaten 7-3 in La Rochelle, Lions to Stade Francais and Zebre, beaten at home in the Challenge Cup, were the only URC losing teams in Europe this weekend. So 13 winning performances with all four Welsh teams, both Scottish teams, one Italian and three S African & Irish winners. Whereas, only three Premiership winners and three French Top 14 winners.

So, a fairly comprehensive picture of the ascendancy of the URC as the strongest League in Europe. It will be fascinating to see whether this dominance carries through to the qualifiers after next week's final Pool games.

No matter how the Anglo-French domination of the EPCR Board tried to screw the two European competitions to favour their Leagues, it is now evident that outside of two or three Clubs in each of those Leagues, the URC has stronger, more competitive, teams.
And the realisation of this fact will lead inevitably, IMO, to the Nigels wanting into the URC - thereby making it a two division competition - to their conditions. I hope the IRFU and the provinces tell them to take a running jump.
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S African forums kicking up a bit of dust about having to play Heino semi-finals in Europe. Fairly typical Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Can't say we weren't warned.
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I would hope, that the URC and the Heino heads can organise the coming season a bit better, so the Saffer teams come up to Europe to play combined blocks of games and don't have to travel huge distances for one match. Also the sponsorship deal the URC has with some airline, means they're not flying direct SA to Europe but via the Persian Gulf, which makes the trips even time-consuming and arduous. Plus the players are seated in economy, which, IMO, is absolutely disgraceful.
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riocard911 wrote: January 17th, 2023, 1:59 pm I would hope, that the URC and the Heino heads can organise the coming season a bit better, so the Saffer teams come up to Europe to play combined blocks of games and don't have to travel huge distances for one match. Also the sponsorship deal the URC has with some airline, means they're not flying direct SA to Europe but via the Persian Gulf, which makes the trips even time-consuming and arduous. Plus the players are seated in economy, which, IMO, is absolutely disgraceful.
Large men sitting for long hours in economy on a flight that is unnecessarily long on a flight that belongs to a sponsor.

Not one bit of that makes any sense, unless all of the good seats are being taken by the alikadoos that is?
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Oldschoolsocks wrote: January 17th, 2023, 2:07 pm
riocard911 wrote: January 17th, 2023, 1:59 pm I would hope, that the URC and the Heino heads can organise the coming season a bit better, so the Saffer teams come up to Europe to play combined blocks of games and don't have to travel huge distances for one match. Also the sponsorship deal the URC has with some airline, means they're not flying direct SA to Europe but via the Persian Gulf, which makes the trips even time-consuming and arduous. Plus the players are seated in economy, which, IMO, is absolutely disgraceful.
Large men sitting for long hours in economy on a flight that is unnecessarily long on a flight that belongs to a sponsor.

Not one bit of that makes any sense, unless all of the good seats are being taken by the alikadoos that is?
So much for "player welfare"....... :( :( :(
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riocard911 wrote: January 17th, 2023, 1:59 pm I would hope, that the URC and the Heino heads can organise the coming season a bit better, so the Saffer teams come up to Europe to play combined blocks of games and don't have to travel huge distances for one match. Also the sponsorship deal the URC has with some airline, means they're not flying direct SA to Europe but via the Persian Gulf, which makes the trips even time-consuming and arduous. Plus the players are seated in economy, which, IMO, is absolutely disgraceful.
Surely the principal burden is with SARU not signing a deal that routes them via Doha on a 40 hour trip
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paddyor wrote: January 17th, 2023, 5:04 pm
riocard911 wrote: January 17th, 2023, 1:59 pm I would hope, that the URC and the Heino heads can organise the coming season a bit better, so the Saffer teams come up to Europe to play combined blocks of games and don't have to travel huge distances for one match. Also the sponsorship deal the URC has with some airline, means they're not flying direct SA to Europe but via the Persian Gulf, which makes the trips even time-consuming and arduous. Plus the players are seated in economy, which, IMO, is absolutely disgraceful.
Surely the principal burden is with SARU not signing a deal that routes them via Doha on a 40 hour trip
100% they didn't have to sign that deal, but something will have to change with the SA teams now in Europe as these one off trips for HEC weekends are not sustainable.
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Friday, 27 January 2023

Ulster vs DHL Stormers at Kingspan Stadium, Belfast - 19h35
Referee: Mike Adamson
Assistant Referees: Andrew Cole, Paul Haycock
Television Match Official: Andrew McMenemy

Scarlets vs Vodacom Bulls at Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli - 19h35
Referee: Andrew Brace
Assistant Referees: Adam Jones, Ben Breakspear
Television Match Official: Brian MacNeice

Saturday, 28 January 2023

Benetton vs Munster at Stadio Monigo, Treviso - 14h30
Referee: Ben Blain
Assistant Referees: Federico Vedovelli, Franco Rosella
Television Match Official: Sam Grove-White

Dragons RFC vs Glasgow Warriors at Rodney Parade, Newport - 15h00
Referee: Frank Murphy
Assistant Referees: Dewi Phillips, Elliot Mayor
Television Match Official: Olly Hodges

Leinster vs Cardiff Rugby at RDS, Dublin - 17h05
Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant Referees: Joy Neville, Andrew Fogarty
Television Match Official: Marius Jonker

Edinburgh Rugby vs Cell C Sharks at DAM Health Stadium, Edinburgh - 17h15
Referee: James Doleman
Assistant Referees: Jonny Perriam, Ru Campbell
Television Match Official: Eric Gauzins

Connacht vs Emirates Lions at The Sportsground, Galway - 19h35
Referee: Paul Williams
Assistant Referees: Padriac Reidy, Stuart Douglas
Television Match Official: Brendan Pickerill

Sunday, 29 January 2023

Zebre Parma vs Ospreys at Stadio Lanfranchi, Parma - 15h00
Referee: Eoghan Cross
Assistant Referees: Clara Munarini, Riccardo Angelucci
Television Match Official: Leo Colgan
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Wow. They have moved our game with Cardiff to Lansdowne rd? Holy god! :)

Has anyone told Leo?
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johng wrote: January 25th, 2023, 9:48 am Wow. They have moved our game with Cardiff to Lansdowne rd? Holy god! :)

Has anyone told Leo?
It is taken from a South African website and sometimes they make the odd error with names, missed that when I was checking it! :lol:

https://www.sareferees.com/News/referee ... 3/2831630/
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Very significant presence of Irish Refs & TMO's this weekend. Good luck to all ladies & gentlemen
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He also indicated that qualification from the URC for the Champions Cup will return to meritocracy next season, moving away from the current model where each participating nation in the URC is guaranteed one qualifier into the Champions Cup regardless of their finishing position in the URC.

“We have still got a bit of a job to do with teams 16 to 14, potentially up to 13, in terms of are they as competitive as they can be,” said Anayi.

“There’s a lot to do commercially to make the game bigger and a lot to do to bring new fans into the grounds.

“By no means are we done. It’s not a finished article. It’s definitely a work in progress, but the building blocks are there more so than when it was the Pro12 or the Pro14.

“Next season, most likely we will go back to straight meritocracy, with the top eight going through to the Champions Cup.”

https://www.the42.ie/champions-cup-form ... 0-Jan2023/
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neill_m wrote: January 26th, 2023, 3:45 pm He also indicated that qualification from the URC for the Champions Cup will return to meritocracy next season, moving away from the current model where each participating nation in the URC is guaranteed one qualifier into the Champions Cup regardless of their finishing position in the URC.

“We have still got a bit of a job to do with teams 16 to 14, potentially up to 13, in terms of are they as competitive as they can be,” said Anayi.

“There’s a lot to do commercially to make the game bigger and a lot to do to bring new fans into the grounds.

“By no means are we done. It’s not a finished article. It’s definitely a work in progress, but the building blocks are there more so than when it was the Pro12 or the Pro14.

“Next season, most likely we will go back to straight meritocracy, with the top eight going through to the Champions Cup.”

https://www.the42.ie/champions-cup-form ... 0-Jan2023/
Last year that would have meant 3 Irish, 3 SA, and 2 Scottish teams with no Welsh or Italian teams in the CC.
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desperado wrote: January 26th, 2023, 3:59 pm
neill_m wrote: January 26th, 2023, 3:45 pm He also indicated that qualification from the URC for the Champions Cup will return to meritocracy next season, moving away from the current model where each participating nation in the URC is guaranteed one qualifier into the Champions Cup regardless of their finishing position in the URC.

“We have still got a bit of a job to do with teams 16 to 14, potentially up to 13, in terms of are they as competitive as they can be,” said Anayi.

“There’s a lot to do commercially to make the game bigger and a lot to do to bring new fans into the grounds.

“By no means are we done. It’s not a finished article. It’s definitely a work in progress, but the building blocks are there more so than when it was the Pro12 or the Pro14.

“Next season, most likely we will go back to straight meritocracy, with the top eight going through to the Champions Cup.”

https://www.the42.ie/champions-cup-form ... 0-Jan2023/
Last year that would have meant 3 Irish, 3 SA, and 2 Scottish teams with no Welsh or Italian teams in the CC.
Not sure that would be good for the URL.
8 on merit if all countries are represented.
7 on merit and a playoff for the 8th place depending on etc.....
In any case there's a case to be argued for us get 9 teams qualified for the CC.
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Fair point as next season the Nigels will get 8 out of 11 teams and we get 8 from 16
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Blue not red blood wrote: January 26th, 2023, 5:37 pm Fair point as next season the Nigels will get 8 out of 11 teams and we get 8 from 16
Well 8/12 in England if Ealing finish top of the Championship and are actually allowed to be promoted this year.
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https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/ ... _2hzRYGUgA

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Between Ulster putting Stormers down and Scarlets beating Bulls Leinster's buffer at the top of the table has been extended.
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