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Gearzbox2 wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 3:02 pm
wixfjord wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 2:58 pm Us v Connacht in the round of 16 then. Second leg at 'home'.

Would be mad, but I wonder might the IRFU try to bring *both* legs to the Aviva?

Two guaranteed 50k+ crowds would be a big boost for all coffers.
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Don’t think both teams have that option to do that anyway
No way Connacht giving up taking us to Sportsground…
It's definitely an option for us to have a full house in the Aviva for the second leg, and I'd say it might happen too.

Not sure what's in the rules about Connacht, but I would imagine there'd be no issue from ERC about them taking a game to a bigger and more glamorous stadium.

For Connacht, it would be giving up some advantage but it may make the difference between them being able to sign a marquee player for next year or not.
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In the good old days there was a rule about getting a bigger cut of the gate if you agreed to switch to a bigger ground.

Wonder if it's still that way
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wixfjord wrote:Us v Connacht in the round of 16 then. Second leg at 'home'.

Would be mad, but I wonder might the IRFU try to bring *both* legs to the Aviva?

Two guaranteed 50k+ crowds would be a big boost for all coffers.
Don't think they'd sell it out... Certainly not twice

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The Doc wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:17 pm
wixfjord wrote:Us v Connacht in the round of 16 then. Second leg at 'home'.

Would be mad, but I wonder might the IRFU try to bring *both* legs to the Aviva?

Two guaranteed 50k+ crowds would be a big boost for all coffers.
Don't think they'd sell it out... Certainly not twice

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Two months to sell tickets to an Irish derby knockout game in the Champions Cup with people gasping to get back into stadiums?

If you can't get a 50k+ crowd for that then there's something wrong. Particularly if 6N goes well.

Ticket packages giving access to both games would be an option also.

The marketing of Irish club rugby is generally really poor. This is an opportunity to generate two big pay days with a bit of imagination and hype.
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Connacht's first ever HC knockout is the dream fixture against Leinster.

They could offer it as a package to both sets of season ticket holders.
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wixfjord wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:20 pm
If you can't get a 50k+ crowd for that then there's something wrong. Particularly if 6N goes well.

Ticket packages giving access to both games would be an option also.

The marketing of Irish club rugby is generally really poor. This is an opportunity to generate two big pay days with a bit of imagination and hype.
You're not talking about a 50k+ crowd though (which I do think you'd get, but it would be very hard work), you're talking about a 100k+ crowd (which you have no chance of getting). In fact, if the game were moved from the Sportsground, I would not be surprised to see a boycott from the Connacht Clan
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We're also playing Munster in the Aviva the week before the first leg.
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Dave Cahill wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:26 pm
wixfjord wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:20 pm
If you can't get a 50k+ crowd for that then there's something wrong. Particularly if 6N goes well.

Ticket packages giving access to both games would be an option also.

The marketing of Irish club rugby is generally really poor. This is an opportunity to generate two big pay days with a bit of imagination and hype.
You're not talking about a 50k+ crowd though (which I do think you'd get, but it would be very hard work), you're talking about a 100k+ crowd (which you have no chance of getting). In fact, if the game were moved from the Sportsground, I would not be surprised to see a boycott from the Connacht Clan
Why not?

There are already bordering 15k season ticket holders across both clubs so you're starting with that base.

Sell ticket packages, make them reasonably priced and attract people looking to attend an event who can't get 6N tickets.

We've had plenty of times when Leinster alone have had 50k plus crowds multiple times in HEC knockouts, often with 2-3 week ticket selling periods, not 2 months with the country coming out of a pandemic.

I think we'll certainly moved the second leg to the Aviva, which we should to maximise income.

I don't think this will happen because of the politics & imagination required, but it should be discussed by the provinces and IRFU at least.
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wixfjord wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:20 pm
The Doc wrote: January 23rd, 2022, 5:17 pm
wixfjord wrote:Us v Connacht in the round of 16 then. Second leg at 'home'.

Would be mad, but I wonder might the IRFU try to bring *both* legs to the Aviva?

Two guaranteed 50k+ crowds would be a big boost for all coffers.
Don't think they'd sell it out... Certainly not twice

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Two months to sell tickets to an Irish derby knockout game in the Champions Cup with people gasping to get back into stadiums?

If you can't get a 50k+ crowd for that then there's something wrong. Particularly if 6N goes well.

Ticket packages giving access to both games would be an option also.

The marketing of Irish club rugby is generally really poor. This is an opportunity to generate two big pay days with a bit of imagination and hype.

First game won't be decisive. Particularly playing at same venue makes it less appealing. Could then come down to how tight the scoreline is going into the second game, and how compelling the first game was. Obviously with Leinster involved would improve performance but could see it somewhat being similar to the Ulster V Connacht debacle if both games were to be played at the Aviva.
Should get a base of 20k for sure.

Having both games in the Aviva diminishes the big event of each individual game being there.
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What happened the last time we played a province in a knockout Euro game?
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Montpellier making a game of this - unbelievable try under the sticks to bring it to 7-5 after 13 mins.
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Exeter given away two scrum penos in a row now....
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Text book maul try pushover by Montpellier. Converted 14-5
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Peno for a neck roll gives MON a lineout ten yards out - which leads to another try! They only need one more try to qualify ahead of Glasgow. Converted 21-5.
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Another scrum peno against Exeter - three in a row now....
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Montpellier use route one to bash up the Exeter pack. And it's working. Peno in front of the posts. 24-5
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Simmonds forces his way over from short range. Converted - 24-12
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Intercept try for Exeter after Montpellier had just turned the ball over - duh!! Converted 24-19
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HT: 24-19. Preceding that Frank Murphy had given a peno against Montpellier five yards out from their line for their scrum half using the F-word not at the ref or any of the officials but at his opposite number. BT commentators full of praise?!!! FFS, I'm all for discipline and respect for the ref, backchat being penalised, ditto play acting and mocking the opposition, but a peno for telling an opposition player to "f%~k off"? Personally I don't agree with that. "f%~k? in 2022 is common parlance among young and old. Apologies by commentators just cos it's on the TV is ridiculous, IMO. Ditto penalising players for directing it at each other.
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Scrum peno for Exeter - they've all the momentum at the start of the 2nd half.
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