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Bath appear to be on their way to a 9th straight defeat vs Saints. Barely recognise any of the team. In fact there's a few on the saints team that used to be Bath. Maybe 3 internationals and 1 or 2 I know from previous games.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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In spite of that probably good news about Pollard, I still have major worries about this match.
Remember the last match there, where we were well beaten and only a wonderful bit of Nacewa magic saved the vital losing bonus point. Knowing that we needed seven points, and not five, just on full time he declined touching down in the corner with a try but cut back towards the posts to do so. Very few wingers would have done that in that particular instance.
Also it is a very intimidating ground, with the steepest stand seating that I have ever seen.
Just for interest. You can fly to Carcassonne arriving 3 hours 40 before the match. It is 2 hours to Montpelier, so very manageable. Back on Sunday afternoon.
Cost. Just €60. Presumably MOL has decided nobody going over.
I though about it (have lift from Carcassonne waiting) but no, because of that bloody virus.
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Caliphi wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:34 pm In spite of that probably good news about Pollard, I still have major worries about this match.
Remember the last match there, where we were well beaten and only a wonderful bit of Nacewa magic saved the vital losing bonus point. Knowing that we needed seven points, and not five, just on full time he declined touching down in the corner with a try but cut back towards the posts to do so. Very few wingers would have done that in that particular instance.
Also it is a very intimidating ground, with the steepest stand seating that I have ever seen.
Just for interest. You can fly to Carcassonne arriving 3 hours 40 before the match. It is 2 hours to Montpelier, so very manageable. Back on Sunday afternoon.
Cost. Just €60. Presumably MOL has decided nobody going over.
I though about it (have lift from Carcassonne waiting) but no, because of that bloody virus.
Eh, I think you forgot us beating them 14-35 down there last December. :-)

Doesn't take from your point though, that this is gonna be a tough match to win.
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Caliphi wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:34 pm In spite of that probably good news about Pollard, I still have major worries about this match.
Remember the last match there, where we were well beaten and only a wonderful bit of Nacewa magic saved the vital losing bonus point. Knowing that we needed seven points, and not five, just on full time he declined touching down in the corner with a try but cut back towards the posts to do so. Very few wingers would have done that in that particular instance.
Also it is a very intimidating ground, with the steepest stand seating that I have ever seen.
Just for interest. You can fly to Carcassonne arriving 3 hours 40 before the match. It is 2 hours to Montpelier, so very manageable. Back on Sunday afternoon.
Cost. Just €60. Presumably MOL has decided nobody going over.
I though about it (have lift from Carcassonne waiting) but no, because of that bloody virus.
That's going back to 2016/17 I think.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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In nine Premiership games to date Bath have conceded an average of 33 points and scored an average of 18 per game. That's an average concession of almost 5 tries af game whilst scoring two per game.

Almost every Club has a 'turning point', but no signs that it has arrived yet at the Rec. Looking forward to Aviva next weekend but we need to keep the foot to the floor for first half so that Bath don't get any ideas that their 'turning point' is European Competition. The team I'd like to see:

1. Porter; 2. Kelleher; 3. Furlong; 4. Baird;, 5. Ryan; 6. Doris;;. 7. JVdF; 8. Conan; 9. JGP; -0. J10; 11. Lowe; 12. Henshaw; 13. Ringrose; 14. A Bryne; 15. Keenan;
16. Sheehan; 17. Healy; 18. A'Alotoa; 19. Molony; 20. Leavy; 21. McGrath; 22. Frawley; 23. Larmour

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Ruckedtobits wrote: December 5th, 2021, 11:40 am In nine Premiership games to date Bath have conceded an average of 33 points and scored an average of 18 per game. That's an average concession of almost 5 tries af game whilst scoring two per game.

Almost every Club has a 'turning point', but no signs that it has arrived yet at the Rec. Looking forward to Aviva next weekend but we need to keep the foot to the floor for first half so that Bath don't get any ideas that their 'turning point' is European Competition. The team I'd like to see:

1. Porter; 2. Kelleher; 3. Furlong; 4. Baird;, 5. Ryan; 6. Doris;;. 7. JVdF; 8. Conan; 9. JGP; -0. J10; 11. Lowe; 12. Henshaw; 13. Ringrose; 14. A Bryne; 15. Keenan;
16. Sheehan; 17. Healy; 18. A'Alotoa; 19. Molony; 20. Leavy; 21. McGrath; 22. Frawley; 23. Larmour

Locked and fully loaded!
Personally, I can't see all four of Ryan, Conan, JGP and J10 starting next week. Assuming they're all good to go, I could see them coming off the bench to prime them for the away match vs Montpellier, which is more than likely to be a far more difficult task than disposing of the Prem's bottom feaders in the Aviva. I see Pollard is not our only concern at ten for Montpellier; they also have Paolo Garbisi on their books. He played 65 mins in their victory yesterday vs Perpignan. Montpellier are currently third in the Top 14.
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Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
You know I'm going to lose,
And gambling's for fools,
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blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
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riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
I had a look on Reddit and yes, it's the result of them not being allowed to got to Disneyland on daddy's money.

It tied in with someone saying that Cardiff really could make a go of it as they've had a management team and investment in place for ten years but (the union and the URC). No idiots. You don't have the money in place. You have some people in charge of your club that are not being accountable.

FWIW I believe the closing of the borders to Africa was a shotshow for performance by the governments of Europe and hotel quarantine was the more appropriate response.
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riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
To be fair they have reason. It's a really difficult and unfair situation in many ways. The only thing they did wrong was to travel to fulfill a fixture. Think I'd be pretty pissed off if Leinster were n that situation.
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riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
I think it’s ‘cue’
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Flash Gordon wrote: December 7th, 2021, 4:42 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
To be fair they have reason. It's a really difficult and unfair situation in many ways. The only thing they did wrong was to travel to fulfill a fixture. Think I'd be pretty pissed off if Leinster were n that situation.
No Kidding - if it was us we would be livid.
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Oldschoolsocks wrote: December 7th, 2021, 5:02 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
I think it’s ‘cue’
Thx. My bad....
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Flash Gordon wrote: December 7th, 2021, 4:42 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
To be fair they have reason. It's a really difficult and unfair situation in many ways. The only thing they did wrong was to travel to fulfill a fixture. Think I'd be pretty pissed off if Leinster were n that situation.
Entirely agree, just luck we ain't in this position and all going nuts......
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It's pretty much all luck though isn't it?

It's awful for Scarlets, but they're the times we're living in and unfortunately there isn't any other option really.

If it were we'd be frustrated, but there's nobody to blame bar covid.
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tingman wrote: December 7th, 2021, 5:28 pm
Flash Gordon wrote: December 7th, 2021, 4:42 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm

Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
To be fair they have reason. It's a really difficult and unfair situation in many ways. The only thing they did wrong was to travel to fulfill a fixture. Think I'd be pretty pissed off if Leinster were n that situation.
No Kidding - if it was us we would be livid.
But with whom?
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And gambling's for fools,
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The URC for not being the English premiership (what a stupid neologism).
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Oldschoolsocks wrote: December 7th, 2021, 5:02 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm
blockhead wrote: December 7th, 2021, 11:43 am Scarlets have thrown in the towel. 28-0 win for Bristol
Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
I think it’s ‘cue’
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riocard911 wrote: December 4th, 2021, 7:12 pm
Caliphi wrote: December 4th, 2021, 6:34 pm In spite of that probably good news about Pollard, I still have major worries about this match.
Remember the last match there, where we were well beaten and only a wonderful bit of Nacewa magic saved the vital losing bonus point. Knowing that we needed seven points, and not five, just on full time he declined touching down in the corner with a try but cut back towards the posts to do so. Very few wingers would have done that in that particular instance.
Also it is a very intimidating ground, with the steepest stand seating that I have ever seen.
Just for interest. You can fly to Carcassonne arriving 3 hours 40 before the match. It is 2 hours to Montpelier, so very manageable. Back on Sunday afternoon.
Cost. Just €60. Presumably MOL has decided nobody going over.
I though about it (have lift from Carcassonne waiting) but no, because of that bloody virus.
Eh, I think you forgot us beating them 14-35 down there last December. :-)

Doesn't take from your point though, that this is gonna be a tough match to win.
Also in 2018 when we beat them 14-23 down there on our way to winning the competition.
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Peg Leg wrote: December 8th, 2021, 11:37 am
Oldschoolsocks wrote: December 7th, 2021, 5:02 pm
riocard911 wrote: December 7th, 2021, 1:34 pm

Queue more whingeing by the Welsh.....
I think it’s ‘cue’
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