Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
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Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
Leinster are 0 and 4 against Toulon.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
In our "segment" of the draw, none of the four teams, Toulon, Lyon, Exeter or ourselves, can have three games in a row at home. Toulon & Lyon are travelling in the round of 16 whilst Exeter go to Gloucester on March 26th and, should we beat Toulon, we will travel to Lyon or Exeter.
In view of our Pro14 final and the France v Scot 6N final game on the 25th March, interwoven with Covid restrictions re travel etc. fixtures over those three weekends will be logistically complex. At this vantage point, having Munster & Toulon at home with two 7-day intervals could be very beneficial to Leinster management selection and integration. Conversely, Exeter could have 3 or more key players in the Scottish side on the 25th March playing a long way from Sandy Park.
In view of our Pro14 final and the France v Scot 6N final game on the 25th March, interwoven with Covid restrictions re travel etc. fixtures over those three weekends will be logistically complex. At this vantage point, having Munster & Toulon at home with two 7-day intervals could be very beneficial to Leinster management selection and integration. Conversely, Exeter could have 3 or more key players in the Scottish side on the 25th March playing a long way from Sandy Park.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
On the Toulon fans forum there seems to be a general feel that they are too thinly stretched at the moment and due to upcoming games against teams around them in the top14 their priority will be on that and not the match v Leinster m. Also one or two mentioned that they think this was a favourable draw for them ( one said Leinster is an aging team- but still very good) and that getting Bristol or Exeter would have been harder.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
probably true to a degree.Theleinsterlad wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:30 am On the Toulon fans forum there seems to be a general feel that they are too thinly stretched at the moment and due to upcoming games against teams around them in the top14 their priority will be on that and not the match v Leinster m. Also one or two mentioned that they think this was a favourable draw for them ( one said Leinster is an aging team- but still very good) and that getting Bristol or Exeter would have been harder.
Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
Keenan
Lowe
Larmour
Henshaw
Ringrose
JCB
Sexton
Healy
Kellerher
Furlong
Ryan
Baird
Conan
Connors
Doris
Is hardly an aging squad
Lowe
Larmour
Henshaw
Ringrose
JCB
Sexton
Healy
Kellerher
Furlong
Ryan
Baird
Conan
Connors
Doris
Is hardly an aging squad
You know I'm going to lose,
And gambling's for fools,
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I don't really think that is true.mildlyinterested wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:33 amprobably true to a degree.Theleinsterlad wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:30 am On the Toulon fans forum there seems to be a general feel that they are too thinly stretched at the moment and due to upcoming games against teams around them in the top14 their priority will be on that and not the match v Leinster m. Also one or two mentioned that they think this was a favourable draw for them ( one said Leinster is an aging team- but still very good) and that getting Bristol or Exeter would have been harder.
I mean it's hard to say what our first 15 is, but it could easily be:
Healy, Kelleher, Furlong, Ryan, Baird, Ruddock, Connors, Doris, Luke, Sexton, Lowe, Henshaw, Ringer, Larmour, Keenan
Toner/Baird is debatable of course, but only Healy, Sexton & Rhys are 30 or over in that list.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
I think there is a perception outside Ireland that that is the case though, as a lot of our young guys aren't exactly house hold names yet (Keenan and Kelleher for example).
But hey if that is the case, all the better, we might slip under the Rader a bit so!
But hey if that is the case, all the better, we might slip under the Rader a bit so!
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
Yeah for a french fan i'd say sexton is very representive of leinster and he is certainly aging.LeinsterLeader wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 11:12 am I think there is a perception outside Ireland that that is the case though, as a lot of our young guys aren't exactly house hold names yet (Keenan and Kelleher for example).
But hey if that is the case, all the better, we might slip under the Rader a bit so!
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People outside Leinster tend to view the strength of a Leinster side through the prism of whether Johnny Sexton plays or not. We could send Johnny and a team of children to Thomond Park and certain elements of our national media would say that Leinster are "assuredly sending a strong side to storm Munster's Thomond citadel" (I'll leave it to you to work out the writer). Similarly, if Johnny Sexton plays we have an "ageing" side. Throw in Toner and/or Fardy and the narrative becomes comically distorted.wixfjord wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:47 amI don't really think that is true.mildlyinterested wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:33 amprobably true to a degree.Theleinsterlad wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 10:30 am On the Toulon fans forum there seems to be a general feel that they are too thinly stretched at the moment and due to upcoming games against teams around them in the top14 their priority will be on that and not the match v Leinster m. Also one or two mentioned that they think this was a favourable draw for them ( one said Leinster is an aging team- but still very good) and that getting Bristol or Exeter would have been harder.
I mean it's hard to say what our first 15 is, but it could easily be:
Healy, Kelleher, Furlong, Ryan, Baird, Ruddock, Connors, Doris, Luke, Sexton, Lowe, Henshaw, Ringer, Larmour, Keenan
Toner/Baird is debatable of course, but only Healy, Sexton & Rhys are 30 or over in that list.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
Can anyone name a team that isn’t ageing?
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All great sides have a healthy blend of young and old.
Most cr@p sides do too I suppose so don't mind me, sure what would I know!
Most cr@p sides do too I suppose so don't mind me, sure what would I know!
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
He's the player they will first think of when they think Leinster for sure. As others have said, from our starting XV Sexton and Church are probably the only aging players albeit both play in pivotal positions.mildlyinterested wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 11:14 amYeah for a french fan i'd say sexton is very representive of leinster and he is certainly aging.LeinsterLeader wrote: ↑March 10th, 2021, 11:12 am I think there is a perception outside Ireland that that is the case though, as a lot of our young guys aren't exactly house hold names yet (Keenan and Kelleher for example).
But hey if that is the case, all the better, we might slip under the Rader a bit so!
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021
Leinsters match up with Toulon scheduled for 6 days after pro 14 final. On a Friday at 5.30pm.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
I despair, what a shambles.
And all for the Rainbow f%~king Cup.
And all for the Rainbow f%~king Cup.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
Utter joke alright.. Hope Leinster show Pro 14 the respect the competition organizers has given it by not playing any internationals in it.
Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
The Rainbow Cup is a once-off yoke of a thing. The value of one-off tournaments is not so much questionable as neglible.LeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑March 16th, 2021, 3:44 pm I despair, what a shambles.
And all for the Rainbow f%~king Cup.
For example, the same Six Nations teams all played in the Autumn Nations Cup as are playing in the 2021 Six Nations - the same players, the same coaches, the same referees, the same venues, the same official rigmarole with anthems etc. – and I had to look up Wikipedia to see where we finished. It only took place about four months ago. It just didn't register with me. In contrast, I could probably tell you where we finished in each edition of the Six Nations for the last 20 years.
With regards to the scheduling, it is what it is. We have to get stuck into it and win some tough matches now we're in trophy season. We've got a very good squad and excellent coaches and selectors. I'm really looking forward to the games.
Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
It's a pre season tournament and I hope we use it as such. Good opportunity there to give the young lads even more game time, hopefully Vakh is available for it all.hugonaut wrote: ↑March 16th, 2021, 8:47 pmThe Rainbow Cup is a once-off yoke of a thing. The value of one-off tournaments is not so much questionable as neglible.LeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑March 16th, 2021, 3:44 pm I despair, what a shambles.
And all for the Rainbow f%~king Cup.
For example, the same Six Nations teams all played in the Autumn Nations Cup as are playing in the 2021 Six Nations - the same players, the same coaches, the same referees, the same venues, the same official rigmarole with anthems etc. – and I had to look up Wikipedia to see where we finished. It only took place about four months ago. It just didn't register with me. In contrast, I could probably tell you where we finished in each edition of the Six Nations for the last 20 years.
With regards to the scheduling, it is what it is. We have to get stuck into it and win some tough matches now we're in trophy season. We've got a very good squad and excellent coaches and selectors. I'm really looking forward to the games.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm
From Leinster on Twitter:
Matthew Carley (RFU) has been appointed to referee our #HeinekenChampionsCup Round of 16 tie with
@RCTofficiel at the RDS on Friday, 2 April.
Matthew Carley (RFU) has been appointed to referee our #HeinekenChampionsCup Round of 16 tie with
@RCTofficiel at the RDS on Friday, 2 April.