Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm

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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm

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I assume Josh Murphy is available?

If he is, I'd definitely bench him instead of Molony also.

He has the sheer size and power we might need in a backrow sub.
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I'm not sure.. missing from training photos at the minute.. hopefully they post more later
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wixfjord wrote: March 29th, 2021, 7:43 pm I assume Josh Murphy is available?

If he is, I'd definitely bench him instead of Molony also.

He has the sheer size and power we might need in a backrow sub.
He has been really, really good for us this season. One stat from the Pro14's [brilliant] stats page [here: https://www.pro14.rugby/statistics/players ] that is revealing is his successful carries: 66, which puts him sixth of all players in the league.

Successful Carries:
1. 86 - Coombes
2. 78 - Penny
3. 74 - Ruddock
4. 69 - Kalamafoni
5. 67 - Coetzee
6. 66 - Murphy

That's great in the first place, but then when you put it as a proportion of his overall carries:

Overall Carries
1. 167 - Kalamafoni
2. 148 - Coombes
3. 143 - Ruddock
4. 135 - Coetzee
5. 126 - Penny ...
...
31. 92 - Murphy

72% [rounded up] of his carries were over the gainline - that compares with 62% for Penny, 58% for Coombes, 52% for Ruddock, 50% for Coetzee and 41% for Kalamafoni. I realise that there is genuine value in making a lot of carries per game – somebody has to tackle you every carry you make, which puts stress and fatigue on the opposition – but that rate of success is something I never thought I'd see from Murphy. He has become a really quality ball-carrier.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm

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what i'd love to see in match statistics is a stat on how many opp players were engaged by each carry.
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm

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Dave Cahill wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:25 pm what i'd love to see in match statistics is a stat on how many opp players were engaged by each carry.
Ruddock always seems to take at least 2.
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hugonaut wrote: March 29th, 2021, 7:39 pm
backrower8 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 3:49 pm Dooley, Kelleher, Furlong, Baird, Toner, Ruddock, VDF, Conan, Luke, Johnny, Lowe, Robbie, ROL, Kearney, Keenan + Treacy, Healy, Porter, Fardy, Murphy, JGP, Ross, Larmour. One or other injury at 10 may see both Harry & Frawley deployed.

Strong, but not a XV to win a 5th star. Need Ryan plus at least one of Ringrose and Doris (in that order) back for that to happen.
Like the team, would go with the same selection myself. Fardy put in a massive shift against Munster [best performance of the season from him] but it would be asking too much of him to do the same again on a short turn around. We'll have to play it very fast against them, but I think that we have the players and the game plan to do just that.

This might sound a bit risky, but I'd seriously think of putting Dan Sheehan on the bench. In fact I'd just go ahead and do it.
Having Kelleher and Sheehan as a one-two punch seems almost unfair to the opposition. Haven't seen anything wrong with Sheehans darts either.
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Dave Cahill wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:25 pm what i'd love to see in match statistics is a stat on how many opp players were engaged by each carry.
That is a really good idea.
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Jcahill1 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm
hugonaut wrote: March 29th, 2021, 7:39 pm
backrower8 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 3:49 pm Dooley, Kelleher, Furlong, Baird, Toner, Ruddock, VDF, Conan, Luke, Johnny, Lowe, Robbie, ROL, Kearney, Keenan + Treacy, Healy, Porter, Fardy, Murphy, JGP, Ross, Larmour. One or other injury at 10 may see both Harry & Frawley deployed.

Strong, but not a XV to win a 5th star. Need Ryan plus at least one of Ringrose and Doris (in that order) back for that to happen.
Like the team, would go with the same selection myself. Fardy put in a massive shift against Munster [best performance of the season from him] but it would be asking too much of him to do the same again on a short turn around. We'll have to play it very fast against them, but I think that we have the players and the game plan to do just that.

This might sound a bit risky, but I'd seriously think of putting Dan Sheehan on the bench. In fact I'd just go ahead and do it.
Having Kelleher and Sheehan as a one-two punch seems almost unfair to the opposition. Haven't seen anything wrong with Sheehans darts either.
think there's a bigger concern about his scrummaging.
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mildlyinterested wrote: March 29th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Jcahill1 wrote: March 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm
hugonaut wrote: March 29th, 2021, 7:39 pm

Like the team, would go with the same selection myself. Fardy put in a massive shift against Munster [best performance of the season from him] but it would be asking too much of him to do the same again on a short turn around. We'll have to play it very fast against them, but I think that we have the players and the game plan to do just that.

This might sound a bit risky, but I'd seriously think of putting Dan Sheehan on the bench. In fact I'd just go ahead and do it.
Having Kelleher and Sheehan as a one-two punch seems almost unfair to the opposition. Haven't seen anything wrong with Sheehans darts either.
think there's a bigger concern about his scrummaging.
He’s very tall for a hooker, will be interesting to see how he manages at scrum time but as a rugby player he’s a serious talent
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the spoofer wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:29 pm
Dave Cahill wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:25 pm what i'd love to see in match statistics is a stat on how many opp players were engaged by each carry.
Ruddock always seems to take at least 2.
Does that count side steps?
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joooooe wrote: March 29th, 2021, 10:23 pm
the spoofer wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:29 pm
Dave Cahill wrote: March 29th, 2021, 8:25 pm what i'd love to see in match statistics is a stat on how many opp players were engaged by each carry.
Ruddock always seems to take at least 2.
Does that count side steps?
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wixfjord wrote: March 29th, 2021, 7:43 pm I assume Josh Murphy is available?

If he is, I'd definitely bench him instead of Molony also.

He has the sheer size and power we might need in a backrow sub.
He has a broken nose, Leinster have been quiet about him in the injury updates
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Re: Leinster Vs Toulon 2021, Friday the 2nd of April, 5.30pm

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That Toloun side looks too good to be as low as it is in the French league, they have a massive pack and some good backs

However you guys look to be fitter and more mobile, you could do with a nice sunny day a fast track and I don't see them being able to cope with you for 80 minutes

I reckon it'll be close for 60 but you'll pull away and win by 10 to 15
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JB1973 wrote: March 30th, 2021, 9:20 am That Toloun side looks too good to be as low as it is in the French league, they have a massive pack and some good backs

However you guys look to be fitter and more mobile, you could do with a nice sunny day a fast track and I don't see them being able to cope with you for 80 minutes

I reckon it'll be close for 60 but you'll pull away and win by 10 to 15
Forecast for Friday is dry and relatively cold. What I'd give to be there!
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Could this affect the game going ahead? :lol:

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/c ... 55783.html
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mildlyinterested wrote: March 30th, 2021, 1:36 pm Could this affect the game going ahead? :lol:

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/c ... 55783.html
It could, but I assume they arrive on Thursday in a charter plane "bubble" and travel immediately into a "EPCR-MONITORED" bubble.
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Elite sports are exempt from that kind of requirement
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the spoofer wrote: March 30th, 2021, 10:40 am
JB1973 wrote: March 30th, 2021, 9:20 am That Toloun side looks too good to be as low as it is in the French league, they have a massive pack and some good backs

However you guys look to be fitter and more mobile, you could do with a nice sunny day a fast track and I don't see them being able to cope with you for 80 minutes

I reckon it'll be close for 60 but you'll pull away and win by 10 to 15
Forecast for Friday is dry and relatively cold. What I'd give to be there!
Sitting down eating a lovely bag of garlic cheesy chips and burger before relaxing into a scoop of pints watching the champagne rugby! God I’ve tears in my eyes just thinking of our Friday night games
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Theleinsterlad wrote: March 30th, 2021, 4:46 pm
the spoofer wrote: March 30th, 2021, 10:40 am
JB1973 wrote: March 30th, 2021, 9:20 am That Toloun side looks too good to be as low as it is in the French league, they have a massive pack and some good backs

However you guys look to be fitter and more mobile, you could do with a nice sunny day a fast track and I don't see them being able to cope with you for 80 minutes

I reckon it'll be close for 60 but you'll pull away and win by 10 to 15
Forecast for Friday is dry and relatively cold. What I'd give to be there!
Sitting down eating a lovely bag of garlic cheesy chips and burger before relaxing into a scoop of pints watching the champagne rugby! God I’ve tears in my eyes just thinking of our Friday night games
Stop it !! I am in tears now 😢😭
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Blueberry wrote: March 30th, 2021, 7:35 pm
Theleinsterlad wrote: March 30th, 2021, 4:46 pm
the spoofer wrote: March 30th, 2021, 10:40 am

Forecast for Friday is dry and relatively cold. What I'd give to be there!
Sitting down eating a lovely bag of garlic cheesy chips and burger before relaxing into a scoop of pints watching the champagne rugby! God I’ve tears in my eyes just thinking of our Friday night games
Stop it !! I am in tears now 😢😭
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