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It's happening! Not sure about the format yet but the big teams joining has to be good for us. Hope the youth still get the opportunities though.

https://www.the42.ie/south-african-pro1 ... 6-Dec2020/
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fourthirtythree wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:56 pm
It's happening! Not sure about the format yet but the big teams joining has to be good for us. Hope the youth still get the opportunities though.

https://www.the42.ie/south-african-pro1 ... 6-Dec2020/
We'll still have the 6Ns and AIs so youth will get a chance for sure.
Very Exciting Indeed!
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Can't wait!!!

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Brilliant news. This will bring a real quality to our joke of a league.

Hopefully this results in some real upsets, and the possibility of fans getting to see clubs regularly fielding full strength teams.

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Absolutely delighted to hear this, and the powers that be must be commended. Whats not to like. Will look forward to welcoming the wonderful South African people here for some quality Rugby! I know some South Africans were calling hard for a promotion/relegation theme, wonder if this might be a thing in the future?

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Where do Italian, Scots, Irish and Welsh teams get "relegated" to? And who replaces them?

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Personally I've never been sold on adding SA teams, but this at least is a bit of positive new news and excitement that the league really, really needs.

Interesting to see how big the Pro16 press release has gone on the 'international stars' angle. They're clearly expecting teams to play their big guns in this 'rainbow' cup.

Something to look forward to!

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Personally I've no interest in relegation. There isn't a second tier capable of supporting it nor of nurturing teams for promotion. Just not a thing.
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https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/pro14/gu ... uper-teams

The current season ends in with only the winners of each conference in a final on 27th. No semifinal so we need to win our conference.

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Who's got the TV rights?
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D4surfer wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:08 pm
https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/pro14/gu ... uper-teams

The current season ends in with only the winners of each conference in a final on 27th. No semifinal so we need to win our conference.
This makes the upcoming Ulster game pretty important...

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wixfjord wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:16 pm
D4surfer wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:08 pm
https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/pro14/gu ... uper-teams

The current season ends in with only the winners of each conference in a final on 27th. No semifinal so we need to win our conference.
This makes the upcoming Ulster game pretty important...
If there are only 16 rounds, then who do we play to the end of the season. Our next games are Munster (A), Connacht (H) and Ulster (H). We have the postponed game against Scarlets so that leaves 5 to play. If we just complete our conference fixtures that means at home to Glasgow and Ospreys and away to Dragons, Zebre and Ulster.

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D4surfer wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:48 pm
wixfjord wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:16 pm
D4surfer wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:08 pm
https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/pro14/gu ... uper-teams

The current season ends in with only the winners of each conference in a final on 27th. No semifinal so we need to win our conference.
This makes the upcoming Ulster game pretty important...
If there are only 16 rounds, then who do we play to the end of the season. Our next games are Munster (A), Connacht (H) and Ulster (H). We have the postponed game against Scarlets so that leaves 5 to play. If we just complete our conference fixtures that means at home to Glasgow and Ospreys and away to Dragons, Zebre and Ulster.
EDIT:

The 2020/21 Guinness PRO14 campaign will finish after 16 rounds with the Conference winners facing each other in a final in late March
Qualification for EPCR tournaments in 2021/22 will be decided by rankings after Round 16

Rounds 12 to 16 will take place from February 20 and conclude on March 20. A final will then take place at the home venue of the highest-ranked team. This abbreviated fixture list will aim to ensure home and away in-conference fixtures are completed and each team plays all of its cross-conference matches also. Further clarification will be available when fixtures are confirmed.


So basically they're going to try cram all games in? Is that what I'm reading there?

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wixfjord wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:51 pm
D4surfer wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:48 pm
wixfjord wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 3:16 pm


This makes the upcoming Ulster game pretty important...
If there are only 16 rounds, then who do we play to the end of the season. Our next games are Munster (A), Connacht (H) and Ulster (H). We have the postponed game against Scarlets so that leaves 5 to play. If we just complete our conference fixtures that means at home to Glasgow and Ospreys and away to Dragons, Zebre and Ulster.
EDIT:

The 2020/21 Guinness PRO14 campaign will finish after 16 rounds with the Conference winners facing each other in a final in late March
Qualification for EPCR tournaments in 2021/22 will be decided by rankings after Round 16

Rounds 12 to 16 will take place from February 20 and conclude on March 20. A final will then take place at the home venue of the highest-ranked team. This abbreviated fixture list will aim to ensure home and away in-conference fixtures are completed and each team plays all of its cross-conference matches also. Further clarification will be available when fixtures are confirmed.


So basically they're going to try cram all games in? Is that what I'm reading there?
We finish our own conference and the only non-Irish team in the other conference to play is Scarlets. We don't play Munster at home or Connacht away.

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Along with the latest news increasing the importance of the Ulster match, it also means the upcoming Tussle in Thomond could be a preview of the final..... COYBIB!!!!!

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So what’s the back up plan for this now over the next couple of months?

And who is responsible for the stupidity of arranging the Rainbow Cup for April?

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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 12:53 pm
So what’s the back up plan for this now over the next couple of months?

And who is responsible for the stupidity of arranging the Rainbow Cup for April?
I presume Martin Anayi as Pro14 CEO holds the ultimate responsibility – he is tasked with executing the instructions of the board. Doubtless he came under significant pressure from the SARU, and I would imagine that the commercial relationships that they brought to the table was the biggest factor in getting the reps from the other nations [IRFU, SRU etc.] to row in.

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It's a disaster and shouldn't go ahead.

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hugonaut wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 1:25 pm
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 12:53 pm
So what’s the back up plan for this now over the next couple of months?

And who is responsible for the stupidity of arranging the Rainbow Cup for April?
I presume Martin Anayi as Pro14 CEO holds the ultimate responsibility – he is tasked with executing the instructions of the board. Doubtless he came under significant pressure from the SARU, and I would imagine that the commercial relationships that they brought to the table was the biggest factor in getting the reps from the other nations [IRFU, SRU etc.] to row in.
If there isn't a plan B in place that everyone was aware of then everyone involved should resign. It's a difficult situation and the facts keep changing but anyone who thought that this would be a goer as early as April is not capable of running this league, and the idea that they've f%~ked up the current league season to make it happen is beyond belief. Maybe they could bring in someone more competent...John Delaney?

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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 4:15 pm
hugonaut wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 1:25 pm
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 12:53 pm
So what’s the back up plan for this now over the next couple of months?

And who is responsible for the stupidity of arranging the Rainbow Cup for April?
I presume Martin Anayi as Pro14 CEO holds the ultimate responsibility – he is tasked with executing the instructions of the board. Doubtless he came under significant pressure from the SARU, and I would imagine that the commercial relationships that they brought to the table was the biggest factor in getting the reps from the other nations [IRFU, SRU etc.] to row in.
If there isn't a plan B in place that everyone was aware of then everyone involved should resign. It's a difficult situation and the facts keep changing but anyone who thought that this would be a goer as early as April is not capable of running this league, and the idea that they've f%~ked up the current league season to make it happen is beyond belief. Maybe they could bring in someone more competent...John Delaney?
I think 'Plan B' would be to return to the full-format Pro12, i.e. a regular season played out between the 12 teams from Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Italy.

The biggest shock to the competition was announcing mid-season that they were completely changing the procedures, schedule, and format of the competition and launching a new competition that will likely only last one edition, to launch within a week of the league final. That was absolutely f*cking bonkers yet seemed to go down without so much as a hiccup. Returning to the previous status quo wouldn't even make the papers!
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