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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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LeinsterLeader wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:17 am
D4surfer wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:13 am
Who do they have Munster down to play as that club might be our QF opponents.
Munster to be Home to Clermont!
Not sure if that is correct. From todays graudian .

Assuming that ECPR go with the normal top v bottom approach for the knockout stages:

Leinster v Gloucester,
Wasps v Exeter,
Bordeaux-Bègles v Bristol,
La Rochelle v Clermont,
Lyon v Sale,
Racing 92 v Toulon,
Toulouse v Edinburgh
Munster v Scarlets.

The same article mentions that ECPR are also looking at the idea of the quarter finals based on teams playing other teams in their same pool. In that case, Leinster would get Sale.

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Alex Sanderson has taken over at Sale.

They'd be a far tougher opponent than Glos I'd say.

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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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wixfjord wrote:
January 15th, 2021, 1:15 pm
Alex Sanderson has taken over at Sale.

They'd be a far tougher opponent than Glos I'd say.
He'll be perfectly at home there, a club with an avant garde interpretation of various rules and more South Africans than you can shake a isikhwili at
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MylesNaGapoleen wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 2:12 pm
LeinsterLeader wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:17 am
D4surfer wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:13 am
Who do they have Munster down to play as that club might be our QF opponents.
Munster to be Home to Clermont!
Not sure if that is correct. From todays graudian .

Assuming that ECPR go with the normal top v bottom approach for the knockout stages:

Leinster v Gloucester,
Wasps v Exeter,
Bordeaux-Bègles v Bristol,
La Rochelle v Clermont,
Lyon v Sale,
Racing 92 v Toulon,
Toulouse v Edinburgh
Munster v Scarlets.

The same article mentions that ECPR are also looking at the idea of the quarter finals based on teams playing other teams in their same pool. In that case, Leinster would get Sale.
That would be an unusually fortunate draw for Munster.

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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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The format for the next round has been decided

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/2020-21-ch ... ut-format/

I've tried and it has hurt my head but can anyone figure out who are possible opponents might me :D
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Following in-depth discussions with its shareholder leagues and unions, EPCR can announce revised tournament formats for the 2020/21 Heineken Champions Cup and Challenge Cup.

Both tournaments will resume with Rounds of 16 matches on the weekend of 2/3/4 April and the knockout stages will continue with quarter-finals, semi-finals and the scheduled Marseille finals on EPCR’s allocated weekends in April and May.

As approved by the EPCR Board, the Rounds of 16 and quarter-final matches in both tournaments will now be decided by draws which will take place on Tuesday, 9 March.

Regarding the Heineken Champions Cup, the eight highest-ranked clubs in Pool A and the eight highest-ranked clubs in Pool B at the time of the suspension of the tournament have qualified for the Round of 16.

For the purposes of the draw, clubs from the same league cannot be drawn against one another, however, clubs from either pool can be drawn against one another.

A further agreed key principle of the Heineken Champions Cup draw will ensure that clubs which have won both pool stage matches on the pitch – i.e. where results were not impacted by COVID-19 – will play at home in the Round of 16. Therefore, Racing 92, Leinster Rugby, Wasps, Bordeaux-Bègles and Munster Rugby will each be guaranteed a home fixture.

The clubs which are not drawn against either Racing 92, Leinster, Wasps, Bordeaux-Bègles or Munster will have their opponents, and whether they will be playing at home or away, determined as part of the draw.

2020/21 KNOCKOUT STAGE QUALIFIERS

Heineken Champions Cup – Racing 92, Leinster Rugby, Wasps, Bordeaux-Bègles, Munster Rugby, Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks

NB Racing 92, Leinster, Wasps, Bordeaux-Bègles and Munster are guaranteed home matches in the Round of 16.

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So basically we'll have a home draw against one of:

Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks.

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Can't play anyone from pro 14, so no edinburgh or scarlets.

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wixfjord wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:11 pm
So basically we'll have a home draw against one of:

Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks.
Can't get Edinburgh/Scarlets but outta the rest I'll take Exeter or Toulouse :D

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LeinsterLeader wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:23 pm
wixfjord wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:11 pm
So basically we'll have a home draw against one of:

Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks.
Can't get Edinburgh/Scarlets but outta the rest I'll take Exeter or Toulouse :D

No point in hoping for an easy touch. You're either good enough or you're not
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LeinsterLeader wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:23 pm
wixfjord wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:11 pm
So basically we'll have a home draw against one of:

Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks.
Can't get Edinburgh/Scarlets but outta the rest I'll take Exeter or Toulouse :D

No point in hoping for an easy touch. You're either good enough or you're not
Ah, that's a cliche to be honest.

Probability matters in tournament rugby. Particularly as we are managing players through the 6 nations, the Champions cup and the Lions. You earn your right to play at home and against weaker teams by your strength. We play Glaws in the next round we go through. We play Toulouse or Exeter who knows. You have a run of Toulouse then Exeter then Racing and to be honest your chances of winning the tournament are pretty low.

Naturally this is a a difficult year but surely the principles of the tournament should be adhered to. i.e. that you earn your pathway.
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I'd love a crack at Bristol!

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Flash Gordon wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:35 pm
LeinsterLeader wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:23 pm
wixfjord wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 2:11 pm
So basically we'll have a home draw against one of:

Lyon, Toulouse, La Rochelle, Scarlets, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Bristol Bears, Exeter Chiefs, Edinburgh Rugby, Gloucester Rugby, RC Toulon, Sale Sharks.
Can't get Edinburgh/Scarlets but outta the rest I'll take Exeter or Toulouse :D

No point in hoping for an easy touch. You're either good enough or you're not
Ah, that's a cliche to be honest.

Probability matters in tournament rugby. Particularly as we are managing players through the 6 nations, the Champions cup and the Lions. You earn your right to play at home and against weaker teams by your strength. We play Glaws in the next round we go through. We play Toulouse or Exeter who knows. You have a run of Toulouse then Exeter then Racing and to be honest your chances of winning the tournament are pretty low.

Naturally this is a a difficult year but surely the principles of the tournament should be adhered to. i.e. that you earn your pathway.
I suppose it all depends on how you look at it, but another reality is this..... If we go into a game against Glouc as you say we'll probably win and then maybe we face a back to back against Racing/Exeter/Toul without having really played anyone of that caliber all season. That would be a big ask.

Tell you what how about some middle ground..... say La Rochelle or Sale :D

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Lyon or Gloucester would be my preference but would not be distraught to get Toulon or Sharks. Certainly don't want Bristol or Exeter or Toulouse or Clermont.

If we were to also win back to backs, do we keep home advantage?

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Ruckedtobits wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 7:49 pm
Lyon or Gloucester would be my preference but would not be distraught to get Toulon or Sharks. Certainly don't want Bristol or Exeter or Toulouse or Clermont.

If we were to also win back to backs, do we keep home advantage?
I think there's a gap between Exeter/Toulouse and Bristol/Clermont personally. I'd be very confident at home against the latter two. The former are potential tournament winners though.
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CiaranIrl wrote:
February 25th, 2021, 11:51 am
Ruckedtobits wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 7:49 pm
Lyon or Gloucester would be my preference but would not be distraught to get Toulon or Sharks. Certainly don't want Bristol or Exeter or Toulouse or Clermont.

If we were to also win back to backs, do we keep home advantage?
I think there's a gap between Exeter/Toulouse and Bristol/Clermont personally. I'd be very confident at home against the latter two. The former are potential tournament winners though.
Never confident against Clermont personally :oops:

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CiaranIrl wrote:
February 25th, 2021, 11:51 am
Ruckedtobits wrote:
February 24th, 2021, 7:49 pm
Lyon or Gloucester would be my preference but would not be distraught to get Toulon or Sharks. Certainly don't want Bristol or Exeter or Toulouse or Clermont.

If we were to also win back to backs, do we keep home advantage?
I think there's a gap between Exeter/Toulouse and Bristol/Clermont personally. I'd be very confident at home against the latter two. The former are potential tournament winners though.
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