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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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joooooe wrote: October 29th, 2020, 2:48 pm
Dave Cahill wrote: October 29th, 2020, 9:58 am
curates_egg wrote: October 29th, 2020, 7:11 am Edit: It is a no-deal Brexit clause, so the English clubs can continue to play if they crash out.
That was taken care of ages ago, when the Russian teams entered the Challenge cup. A European player is one eligble to play for a member country of Rugby Europe or a player from a country with a reciprical labour agreement with the EU. The RFU is a member of Rugby Europe. This is to do with bubbling.
Well, yes...and no. If there's a hard Brexit the UK will no longer avail of the reciprocal labour agreements with, say, South Africa. While all of their English players will be eligible (they are from a 6 Nations/Rugby Europe country), their South African players would not. Hence the rule change is required in order to accommodate Brexit.
I knew it must be something like that. Not that many teams have many non EU-Kolpak players in their squads though, so it seems a bit gratuitous to have no limit. Some chancer millionaire could offer the All Black backline houses (or shares in 'property investment companies') to go and play for their pet project club.
I'm sure they'll get bored of being stuck playing only Australian sides at some point over the next two years.

Don't know what Dave means by bubbling either.
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Bubbling - the placing of people or groups of people into bubbles. For the auld Covid. The different competitions the teams play in have differing numbers of 'external' players allowed in squads and it wouldn't be practical or covid-safe to have players moving in and out of squads as the competitions progress and shift. So they've just said feck it as regards limits for this year
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Dave Cahill wrote: October 29th, 2020, 7:12 pm Bubbling - the placing of people or groups of people into bubbles. For the auld Covid. The different competitions the teams play in have differing numbers of 'external' players allowed in squads and it wouldn't be practical or covid-safe to have players moving in and out of squads as the competitions progress and shift. So they've just said feck it as regards limits for this year
Ahhh... that bubbling
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Dave Cahill wrote: October 29th, 2020, 7:12 pm Bubbling - the placing of people or groups of people into bubbles. For the auld Covid. The different competitions the teams play in have differing numbers of 'external' players allowed in squads and it wouldn't be practical or covid-safe to have players moving in and out of squads as the competitions progress and shift. So they've just said feck it as regards limits for this year
Ah. But the Johnny Fahrdeners are in the squad and bubble anyway, so I don't understand why you we need to change the rules.

I'm pretty sure it's a Brexit clause. I know a sports lawyer guy in the UK though, so will ask him.
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Fixtures are out:

Saturday 12 December: Montpellier v Leinster, CGL Stadium [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Saturday 19 December: Leinster v Northampton, RDS Arena [KO 1pm, Virgin Media/Channel 4/ BT Sport]

Friday 15 January: Northampton v Leinster, Franklin’s Gardens [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Friday 22 January: Leinster v Montpellier, RDS Arena [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]
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Thought Friday at 5.30 was an error but there seems to be games at that time every round.
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Would rather go to France when Montpellier know there out of the comp
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wixfjord wrote: November 13th, 2020, 3:53 pm Thought Friday at 5.30 was an error but there seems to be games at that time every round.
Bit of a stupid time for a game on a weekday.
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Dexter wrote: November 14th, 2020, 2:08 pm
wixfjord wrote: November 13th, 2020, 3:53 pm Thought Friday at 5.30 was an error but there seems to be games at that time every round.
Bit of a stupid time for a game on a weekday.
Not as big an issue with so many working from home and no one going to matches
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Will we have any fit backs for the Heineken Cup this year
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ronk wrote: November 14th, 2020, 3:58 pm
Dexter wrote: November 14th, 2020, 2:08 pm
wixfjord wrote: November 13th, 2020, 3:53 pm Thought Friday at 5.30 was an error but there seems to be games at that time every round.
Bit of a stupid time for a game on a weekday.
Not as big an issue with so many working from home and no one going to matches
Ah yeah I know, but I like to chill after finishing work @ 5:30 on Friday, move the 20 feet from my desk to the kitchen, have my dinner, glass of wine... not get straight into the stress of an important HC match! They obviously didn't take my routine into account, the selfish gits. :)
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Our squad for this season's H-Cup is up now on EPCR site - all 47 senior players plus all 18 of the academy lads plus Marcus Hanan so a total squad of 66


Here's the squad numbers for all teams

60	Bath
45	Bordeaux
53	Bristol
60	Clermont
53	Connacht
51	Dragons
68	Edinburgh
65	Exeter
69	Glasgow
70	Gloucester
56	Harlequins
57	La Rochelle
66	Leinster
51	Lyon
66	Montpellier
59	Munster
55	Racing
51	Saints
65	Scarlets
51	Sharks
59	Toulon
62	Toulouse
58	Ulster
52	Wasps

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Makes sense with the new rules.
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wixfjord wrote: November 13th, 2020, 3:52 pm Fixtures are out:

Saturday 12 December: Montpellier v Leinster, CGL Stadium [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Saturday 19 December: Leinster v Northampton, RDS Arena [KO 1pm, Virgin Media/Channel 4/ BT Sport]

Friday 15 January: Northampton v Leinster, Franklin’s Gardens [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Friday 22 January: Leinster v Montpellier, RDS Arena [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]
All Ireland Football Final throw in at 530pm on the 19th.
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Blue not red blood wrote: November 26th, 2020, 1:34 pm
wixfjord wrote: November 13th, 2020, 3:52 pm Fixtures are out:

Saturday 12 December: Montpellier v Leinster, CGL Stadium [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Saturday 19 December: Leinster v Northampton, RDS Arena [KO 1pm, Virgin Media/Channel 4/ BT Sport]

Friday 15 January: Northampton v Leinster, Franklin’s Gardens [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]

Friday 22 January: Leinster v Montpellier, RDS Arena [KO 5.30pm, BT Sport]
All Ireland Football Final throw in at 530pm on the 19th.
No visitors to my house that day please
cr@p... Lowe needs a scan on injury picked up,in Game V Engerland....we need him intact for Heino
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Saints go down to Bordeaux at home with an LBP.

Bordeaux look good for a QF spot with Dragons X2 and Saints at home to come.
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Chris Boyd saying he will play a younger side next week against Leinster.
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Results today have already decided a fair bit.

Bourdeaux should be able to get through, two games against the Dragons and a home game against a Saints side who've given up.

Toulouse still have a bit to do while Ulster are really going to struggle.
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Yeah, that result effectively eliminates Ulster barring an outrageous performance in Toulouse. Was weird seeing people at that game too, but that’s another matter.
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Re: Heineken Cup 2020/21

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Another away win in Europe for our "substandard" pro 14 teams.
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