Leinster Academy 2021-22

[Lock9541]

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-7s-squad-m ... 2-Jan2022/

Was that the big winger for Kilkenny who played against Michael’s in the 2019 senior cup first round?

[Blue Man]

Thanks Mildly

LH Prop
Peter Dooely(27/Birr RFC/Lansdowne) - started at 1 for Lansdowne.
Marcus Hanan (21/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - injured.
Jack Boyle (19/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured.
--
Ben Popplewell (U20/Wexford RFC/Lansdowne)
Oisín Michel (U20/Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
George Hadden (U19/Gorey RFC/Clontarf)
Adam Duffy (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne)

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - bench for Trinity.
Temi Lasisi (20/Enniscorthy RFC/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne.
--
Rory McGuire (U20/Blackrock College/UCD)
JJ Hession (U20/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)

Hooker
John McKee (21/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - started at 2 for Old Belvo, 1 try.
Lee Barron (20/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 2 for Trinity.
--
Howard Noonan (U20/Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley) - bench.
Barry Gray (U20/Carlow RFC/Clontarf)
Tom Barry (U19/Gonzaga/Lansdowne FC)

Lock
Charlie Ryan (22/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.
Joe McCarthy (20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 5 for Trinity.
--
Mark Morrissey (U20/Blackrock College/UCD) - started at 4 for UCD.
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (U20/St Michael’s College/UCD)
Jim Peters (U19/Portlaoise RFC/Clontarf)
Max Dunne (U19/St. Michaels/DUFC)

Lock-Blindside
Brian Deeny (21/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured.
Alex Soroka (20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf, 1 try.
--
Fionn McWey (U20/Portloaise RFC-Roscrea/Old Belvedere) - started at 6 for Old Belvedere.
Paul Deeny (U20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Diarmuid Mangan (U19/Newbridge/UCD) - injured.
Daniel Leane (U19/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench.

Backrow
Martin Moloney (22/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - bench.
Sean O'Brien (21/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 7 for UCD.
Mark Hernan (21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.
--
James Culhane (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 8 for UCD, 1 try.
Donough Lawlor (U20/Newbridge/Lansdowne)
Luke Callinan (U20/Castleknock/Lansdowne)
Josh O’Hare (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne FC)

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley (22/St. Gerards/Lansdowne)
Ben Murphy (20/Pres Bray/Old Wesley) - started at 9 for Old Wesley.
--
Michael Moloney (U20/Blackrock/UCD)
Conor Duggan (U20/Castleknock/MU Barnhall) - started at 9 for MU Barnhall.

Outhalf
Charlie Tector (19/Kilkenny/Lansdowne) - started at 12 for Lansdowne.
--
Sam Prendergast (U19/Newbridge/Lansdowne)

Centre
Liam Turner (22/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 13 for Trinity.
Jamie Osborne (20/Naas RFC/Naas)
--
Fionn Gibbons (U20/Castleknock/UCD)
Ben Brownlee (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Daniel Hawkshaw (U20/Belvedere/Clontarf)
David Dooley (U19/Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall) - started at 12 for MU Barnhall.

Back Three
Rob Russell (22/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 15 for Trinity.
Andrew Smith (21/St. Michaels/Clontarf)
Niall Comerford (21/Blackrock/UCD)
Max O'Reilly (21/St. Gerards/DUFC) - injured.
Chris Cosgrave (20/St. Michaels/UCD)
--
Dylan O’Grady (U20/Belvedere/UCD) - started at 15 for UCD, 1 try.
Aitzol King (U20/Balbriggan RFC-CUS/Clontarf) - bench.
Callum O’Reilly (U20/St Michael’s/DUFC)
Shane Mallon (U20/Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)

[ronk]

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-7s-squad-m ... 2-Jan2022/

Was that the big winger for Kilkenny who played against Michael’s in the 2019 senior cup first round?

Didn't see that game. May e someone else knows.

[Morf]

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-7s-squad-m ... 2-Jan2022/

Was that the big winger for Kilkenny who played against Michael’s in the 2019 senior cup first round?

For a winger his strength seems to be his strength . . . .
7s lock?

[mildlyinterested]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

[ronk]

Hugo will be upset

[riocard911]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

Is there not enough kids coming out of the English school system, without them having to poach ours, ffs?

I'm reminded of one of the ways Bayern München have kept themselves at the top of the Bundesliga in recent decades: they buy up standout players from other teams such as Dortmund, not because they need them, as the Bavarians have probably the best academy in the country, but primarily in order to deny them to the opposition.

[LeinsterLeader]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

I can see this being the norm (well maybe not the norm but happening more and more). No more will clubs be waiting outside the academy doors for our 'cast offs'. They'll be looking to get the nuggets before we can polish them.

This is a 'bigger then Leinster' problem though. I don't know what the IRFU can do but they need to take a look.

[mildlyinterested]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

I can see this being the norm (well maybe not the norm but happening more and more). No more will clubs be waiting outside the academy doors for our 'cast offs'. They'll be looking to get the nuggets before we can polish them.

This is a 'bigger then Leinster' problem though. I don't know what the IRFU can do but they need to take a look.

offer the top players academy contracts out of school, players still want to play for their province, is the sub-academy necessary in all cases?

[Ruckedtobits]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

I can see this being the norm (well maybe not the norm but happening more and more). No more will clubs be waiting outside the academy doors for our 'cast offs'. They'll be looking to get the nuggets before we can polish them.

This is a 'bigger then Leinster' problem though. I don't know what the IRFU can do but they need to take a look.

offer the top players academy contracts out of school, players still want to play for their province, is the sub-academy necessary in all cases?

Absolutely. The variation in maturity (both physical and for Pro rugby) and preparation of players is so varied that you need a period of assessment of a wide range of players, under broadly the same conditions, to be able to assess which players may come through to be successful rugby players.

Leinster's Schools and Youth systems are an intrinsic part of their development pathway, as is their sub-Academy. That was introduced after direct entry to the Academy had been in operation for 7/8 years, as a necessary intermediate development tool and it has worked.

Players being approached by English Clubs whilst in School is not a new phenomenon and it shouldn't be the reason for changing a successful system. If playing for your country isn't a core objective for any 18 year-old, they're playing the wrong sport. International rugby is the peak and that's where a talented player should be aiming.

[mildlyinterested]

LH Prop
Marcus Hanan (21/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - injured.
Jack Boyle (19/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured.
--
Ben Popplewell (U20/Wexford RFC/Lansdowne) - started at 1 for Lansdowne.
Oisín Michel (U20/Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
George Hadden (U19/Gorey RFC/Clontarf)
Adam Duffy (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne)

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for Trinity.
Temi Lasisi (20/Enniscorthy RFC/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne.
--
Rory McGuire (U20/Blackrock College/UCD)
JJ Hession (U20/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)

Hooker
John McKee (21/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - started at 2 for Old Belvedere.
Lee Barron (20/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 2 for Trinity.
--
Howard Noonan (U20/Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley) - bench.
Barry Gray (U20/Carlow RFC/Clontarf)
Tom Barry (U19/Gonzaga/Lansdowne FC)

Lock
Jack Dunne(23/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 4 for Trinity.
Charlie Ryan (22/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.
Joe McCarthy (20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 5 for Trinity.
--
Mark Morrissey (U20/Blackrock College/UCD) - started at 4 for UCD.
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (U20/St Michael’s College/UCD)
Jim Peters (U19/Portlaoise RFC/Clontarf)
Max Dunne (U19/St. Michaels/DUFC)

Lock-Blindside
Brian Deeny (21/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured.
Alex Soroka (20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 4 for Clontarf.
--
Fionn McWey (U20/Portloaise RFC-Roscrea/Old Belvedere) - started at 6 for Old Belvedere, 1 try.
Paul Deeny (U20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Diarmuid Mangan (U19/Newbridge/UCD) - injured.
Daniel Leane (U19/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench.

Backrow
Scott Penny(22/St. Michaels/UCD) - started at 7 for UCD.
Martin Moloney (22/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf.
Sean O'Brien (21/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 6 for UCD.
Mark Hernan (21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.
--
James Culhane (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 8 for UCD.
Donough Lawlor (U20/Newbridge/Lansdowne)
Luke Callinan (U20/Castleknock/Lansdowne)
Josh O’Hare (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne FC)

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley (22/St. Gerards/Lansdowne)
Ben Murphy (20/Pres Bray/Old Wesley) - started at 9 for Old Wesley.
--
Michael Moloney (U20/Blackrock/UCD)
Conor Duggan (U20/Castleknock/MU Barnhall)

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(22/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 10 for Clontarf.
Charlie Tector (19/Kilkenny/Lansdowne) - started at 10 for Lansdowne.
--
Sam Prendergast (U19/Newbridge/Lansdowne)

Centre
Tommy O'Brien(23/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 12 for UCD.
Liam Turner (22/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 13 for Trinity.
Jamie Osborne (20/Naas RFC/Naas) - started at 13 for Naas.
--
Fionn Gibbons (U20/Castleknock/UCD)
Ben Brownlee (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Daniel Hawkshaw (U20/Belvedere/Clontarf)
David Dooley (U19/Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall) - started at 12 for MU Barnhall.

Back Three
Rob Russell (23/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 15 for Trinity.
Andrew Smith (21/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - irish 7's
Niall Comerford (21/Blackrock/UCD) - irish 7's
Max O'Reilly (21/St. Gerards/DUFC)
Chris Cosgrave (20/St. Michaels/UCD)
--
Dylan O’Grady (U20/Belvedere/UCD) - started at 15 for UCD.
Aitzol King (U20/Balbriggan RFC-CUS/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf.
Callum O’Reilly (U20/St Michael’s/DUFC)
Shane Mallon (U20/Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)

[Morf]

Is Max Dunne a brother of Jack?

[the spoofer]

LH Prop
Marcus Hanan (21/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - injured.
Jack Boyle (19/St. Michaels/UCD) - injured.
--
Ben Popplewell (U20/Wexford RFC/Lansdowne) - started at 1 for Lansdowne.
Oisín Michel (U20/Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
George Hadden (U19/Gorey RFC/Clontarf)
Adam Duffy (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne)

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for Trinity.
Temi Lasisi (20/Enniscorthy RFC/Lansdowne) - bench for Lansdowne.
--
Rory McGuire (U20/Blackrock College/UCD)
JJ Hession (U20/St. Michaels/Lansdowne)

Hooker
John McKee (21/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - started at 2 for Old Belvedere.
Lee Barron (20/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 2 for Trinity.
--
Howard Noonan (U20/Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley) - bench.
Barry Gray (U20/Carlow RFC/Clontarf)
Tom Barry (U19/Gonzaga/Lansdowne FC)

Lock
Jack Dunne(23/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 4 for Trinity.
Charlie Ryan (22/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.
Joe McCarthy (20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 5 for Trinity.
--
Mark Morrissey (U20/Blackrock College/UCD) - started at 4 for UCD.
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (U20/St Michael’s College/UCD)
Jim Peters (U19/Portlaoise RFC/Clontarf)
Max Dunne (U19/St. Michaels/DUFC)

Lock-Blindside
Brian Deeny (21/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured.
Alex Soroka (20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 4 for Clontarf.
--
Fionn McWey (U20/Portloaise RFC-Roscrea/Old Belvedere) - started at 6 for Old Belvedere.
Paul Deeny (U20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Diarmuid Mangan (U19/Newbridge/UCD) - injured.
Daniel Leane (U19/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench.

Backrow
Scott Penny(22/St. Michaels/UCD) - started at 7 for UCD.
Martin Moloney (22/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf.
Sean O'Brien (21/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 6 for UCD.
Mark Hernan (21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.
--
James Culhane (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 8 for UCD.
Donough Lawlor (U20/Newbridge/Lansdowne)
Luke Callinan (U20/Castleknock/Lansdowne)
Josh O’Hare (U19/Dundalk RFC/Lansdowne FC)

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley (22/St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - injured?
Ben Murphy (20/Pres Bray/Old Wesley) - started at 9 for Old Wesley.
--
Michael Moloney (U20/Blackrock/UCD)
Conor Duggan (U20/Castleknock/MU Barnhall) - started at 9 for MU Barnhall.

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(22/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 10 for Clontarf.
Charlie Tector (19/Kilkenny/Lansdowne) - started at 10 for Lansdowne.
--
Sam Prendergast (U19/Newbridge/Lansdowne)

Centre
Tommy O'Brien(23/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 12 for UCD.
Liam Turner (22/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 13 for Trinity.
Jamie Osborne (20/Naas RFC/Naas)
--
Fionn Gibbons (U20/Castleknock/UCD)
Ben Brownlee (U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 13 for UCD.
Daniel Hawkshaw (U20/Belvedere/Clontarf)
David Dooley (U19/Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall) - started at 12 for MU Barnhall.

Back Three
Rob Russell (22/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 15 for Trinity.
Andrew Smith (21/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - irish 7's
Niall Comerford (21/Blackrock/UCD) - irish 7's
Max O'Reilly (21/St. Gerards/DUFC) - injured.
Chris Cosgrave (20/St. Michaels/UCD)
--
Dylan O’Grady (U20/Belvedere/UCD) - started at 15 for UCD.
Aitzol King (U20/Balbriggan RFC-CUS/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf.
Callum O’Reilly (U20/St Michael’s/DUFC)
Shane Mallon (U20/Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)

Think Jamie Osbourne played for Naas yesterday

[limecat]

Is Max Dunne a brother of Jack?

Yeah.

[Morf]

Is Max Dunne a brother of Jack?

Yeah.

Thanks!

[mildlyinterested]

Good to see Cormac Foley, Chris Cosgrave, Max O'Reilly all pictured training today.. still no sign of Marcus Hanan, Jack Boyle, Charlie Ryan, Brian Deeny and Mark Hernan

[Lock9541]

Good to see Cormac Foley, Chris Cosgrave, Max O'Reilly all pictured training today.. still no sign of Marcus Hanan, Jack Boyle, Charlie Ryan, Brian Deeny and Mark Hernan

Charlie Ryan hasn’t trained in about 2 years..what happened?

[Oldschool]

Good to see Cormac Foley, Chris Cosgrave, Max O'Reilly all pictured training today.. still no sign of Marcus Hanan, Jack Boyle, Charlie Ryan, Brian Deeny and Mark Hernan

Charlie Ryan hasn’t trained in about 2 years..what happened?

The answer to that question is probably subject to some sort of Non Disclosure Agreement.

[Oldschool]

apparently a player currently in school has been offered a contract by a club in england.

There's an opening for a bit of double jobbing for you there.
Head Scout for school players for one of the England clubs. Exeter would be a club with that would come to mind.

[mildlyinterested]

Good to see Cormac Foley, Chris Cosgrave, Max O'Reilly all pictured training today.. still no sign of Marcus Hanan, Jack Boyle, Charlie Ryan, Brian Deeny and Mark Hernan

Charlie Ryan hasn’t trained in about 2 years..what happened?

it hasnt been that long, but he hasn't played a game of rugby since December 2020.