Leinster Academy 2021-22

[mildlyinterested]

He jumped, he lifted, he mauled, he moved well ... for a guy that size, that young, he is an exceptional athlete. Guys like Charlie Ryan and Gavin Thornbury took [or are taking, in Ryan's case] a long time to grow into their height. This fella Spicer looks like he is already there. What a prospect!

There were two very good Spicer brothers, Paddy and Kevin out of Meath, who played in the row in the 90s for UCD/Trinity/Belvo. Kevin played the 1997 Varsity match for Oxford. Has to be a son of one of them.

Kevin, who played originally for Clongowes, is his dad. The lad is 16/17 and has been training with Leinster schools all summer.

If he is 17 then he isn't u18 eligible again next year.

[the spoofer]

There were two very good Spicer brothers, Paddy and Kevin out of Meath, who played in the row in the 90s for UCD/Trinity/Belvo. Kevin played the 1997 Varsity match for Oxford. Has to be a son of one of them.

Kevin, who played originally for Clongowes, is his dad. The lad is 16/17 and has been training with Leinster schools all summer.

If he is 17 then he isn't u18 eligible again next year.

Is schools U18, not 18.5's?

[mildlyinterested]

Kevin, who played originally for Clongowes, is his dad. The lad is 16/17 and has been training with Leinster schools all summer.

If he is 17 then he isn't u18 eligible again next year.

Is schools U18, not 18.5's?

yep U18, if he turns 17 in 2021 then he will be eligible for leinster 19's next summer.

[riocard911]

How does that work? Back when I was playing aged based rugby fadó, fadó, the cut was in the summer between the school years. So for example with my birthday in November when I turned 18 I was still u18 till the end of that school year aka that rugby season. So if Alan Spicer turns 17 anytime between now and next June he would still be u17 and as a result u18 aka Senior Cup eligible, when he goes into 6th year in September of 1922. Or am I missing something? Was the system changed in the meantime?

[mildlyinterested]

How does that work? Back when I was playing aged based rugby fadó, fadó, the cut was in the summer between the school years. So for example with my birthday in November when I turned 18 I was still u18 till the end of that school year aka that rugby season. So if Alan Spicer turns 17 anytime between now and next June he would still be u17 and as a result u18 aka Senior Cup eligible, when he goes into 6th year in September of 1922. Or am I missing something? Was the system changed in the meantime?

the interprovincial/national sides operate on a yearly basis so the year a player was born will determine what side he is eligible for.

so for this season:

the u18 schools side were born in 04 or later, i.e turn 18 in 2022.
the u19's born in 03, turn 19 in 2022.
the u20's born in 02, turn 20 in 2022.

So if Spicer turns 17 in 2022, he will be eligible for next seasons u18 schools side. But if he turns 18 in 2022, he will be eligible for the u19 side.

[riocard911]

Gotcha, Mildly. Thanks for the explanation. But if he turns 18 in the latter half of 2022, he is still eligible for the SCT - correct?

[mildlyinterested]

Gotcha, Mildly. Thanks for the explanation. But if he turns 18 in the latter half of 2022, he is still eligible for the SCT - correct?

Yep. Do you know if he is born in 04 or 05?

[mildlyinterested]

It's been a very good interpro season for the underage sides outside of the 20's who have lost to ulster & munster.

[Oddshapedballs]

I was at the match on Sunday and heard someone ask for a pic of the 2005 lads. Spicer was one of them. Pretty sure Alex Mullan is too along with Tom Stewart. I think there was two three more but not sure who they are. All bloody good players though.

[mildlyinterested]

I was at the match on Sunday and heard someone ask for a pic of the 2005 lads. Spicer was one of them. Pretty sure Alex Mullan is too along with Tom Stewart. I think there was two three more but not sure who they are. All bloody good players though.

Mullan was an interesting selection given his lack of height, maybe the expect him to grow a few inches over the next few years.

Charlie Coghlan is another u17 afaik

[OneLungDavy]

I'll be watching this Spicer lads progress with great interest. Hopefully his size is utilized correctly and not see as a hindrance. It took players like Dev and Will Skelton years to become the players they became, hopefully this lad is given the same patience and not shipped off abroad at 22.

[mildlyinterested]

U20 names to watch:

Prop
Jack Boyle (St. Michael's College/UCD)(Academy Y1)
Ben Popplewell (Wexford RFC)
Rory McGuire (Blackrock College)
Oisín Michel (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
Dylan Lynch (Boyne RFC/Clontarf)
JJ Hession (St. Michaels/Lansdowne)

Hooker
Howard Noonan (Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley)
Barry Gray (Carlow RFC/Clontarf)

Lock
Mark Morrissey (Blackrock College/UCD)
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (St Michael’s College)
Sean Walsh (Seapoint RFC/Lansdowne)
Ruairi Clarke (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)

Lock-Blindside
Paul Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Fionn McWey (Portloaise RFC-Roscrea)
Diarmuid Mangan (Newbridge College)(u19)

Backrow
Donough Lawlor (Newbridge College)
Luke Callinan (Castleknock College)
Dylan Ryan (St Michael’s College/DUFC)
James Culhane (Blackrock College)

Scrumhalf
Conor Duggan (Castleknock College)
Oisin Devitt (ClongowesWood College)
Michael Moloney (Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Charlie Tector (Kilkenny College/Lansdowne)
Fionn O'Hara (Mullingar RFC)
Sam Prendergast (Newbridge College)(u19)

Outside Backs
Fionn Gibbons (Castleknock College)
Conor Gibney (Mullingar RFC)
Ben Brownlee (Blackrock College)
Daniel Hawkshaw (Belvedere College)
David Dooley (Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall)(u19)

Back Three
Dylan O’Grady (Belvedere College)
Aitzol King (Balbriggan RFC-CUS)
Callum O’Reilly (St Michael’s College)
Scott Milne (Tullamore RFC)
Shane Mallon (Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)
Lucas Berti Newman (Newbridge College)(u19)

[backrower8]

U20 names to watch:

Prop
Jack Boyle (St. Michael's College/UCD)(Academy Y1)
Ben Popplewell (Wexford RFC)
Rory McGuire (Blackrock College)
Oisín Michel (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
Dylan Lynch (Boyne RFC/Clontarf)

Hooker
Howard Noonan (Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley)
Barry Gray (Carlow RFC/Clontarf)

Lock
Mark Morrissey (Blackrock College/UCD)
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (St Michael’s College)
Sean Walsh (Seapoint RFC/Lansdowne)
Ruairi Clarke (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)

Lock-Blindside
Paul Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Fionn McWey (Portloaise RFC-Roscrea)
Diarmuid Mangan (Newbridge College)(u19)

Backrow
Donough Lawlor (Newbridge College)
Luke Callinan (Castleknock College)
Dylan Ryan (St Michael’s College/DUFC)
James Culhane (Blackrock College)
Dan Carroll (St. Michael's College/DUFC)(u19)

Scrumhalf
Conor Duggan (Castleknock College)
Oisin Devitt (ClongowesWood College)
Michael Moloney (Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Charlie Tector (Kilkenny College/Lansdowne)
Fionn O'Hara (Mullingar RFC)
Sam Prendergast (Newbridge College)(u19)

Outside Backs
Fionn Gibbons (Castleknock College)
Conor Gibney (Mullingar RFC)
Ben Brownlee (Blackrock College)
Daniel Hawkshaw (Belvedere College)
David Dooley (Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall)(u19)

Back Three
Dylan O’Grady (Belvedere College)
Aitzol King (Balbriggan RFC-CUS)
Callum O’Reilly (St Michael’s College)
Scott Milne (Tullamore RFC)
Shane Mallon (Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)
Lucas Berti Newman (Newbridge College)(u19)

Thanks

No James Nicholson? Back 3 / STMC U19 (I think)

[mildlyinterested]

Thanks

No James Nicholson? Back 3 / STMC U19 (I think)

he is still in school afaik and I haven't listed any players still in school.

[Ayewserious]

U20 names to watch:

Prop
Jack Boyle (St. Michael's College/UCD)(Academy Y1)
Ben Popplewell (Wexford RFC)
Rory McGuire (Blackrock College)
Oisín Michel (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)
Dylan Lynch (Boyne RFC/Clontarf)

Hooker
Howard Noonan (Greystones RFC-Temple Carrig/Old Wesley)
Barry Gray (Carlow RFC/Clontarf)

Lock
Mark Morrissey (Blackrock College/UCD)
Conor O'Tighearnaigh (St Michael’s College)
Sean Walsh (Seapoint RFC/Lansdowne)
Ruairi Clarke (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne)

Lock-Blindside
Paul Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Fionn McWey (Portloaise RFC-Roscrea)
Diarmuid Mangan (Newbridge College)(u19)

Backrow
Donough Lawlor (Newbridge College)
Luke Callinan (Castleknock College)
Dylan Ryan (St Michael’s College/DUFC)
James Culhane (Blackrock College)
Dan Carroll (St. Michael's College/DUFC)(u19)

Scrumhalf
Conor Duggan (Castleknock College)
Oisin Devitt (ClongowesWood College)
Michael Moloney (Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Charlie Tector (Kilkenny College/Lansdowne)
Fionn O'Hara (Mullingar RFC)
Sam Prendergast (Newbridge College)(u19)

Outside Backs
Fionn Gibbons (Castleknock College)
Conor Gibney (Mullingar RFC)
Ben Brownlee (Blackrock College)
Daniel Hawkshaw (Belvedere College)
David Dooley (Tullamore RFC/MU Barnhall)(u19)

Back Three
Dylan O’Grady (Belvedere College)
Aitzol King (Balbriggan RFC-CUS)
Callum O’Reilly (St Michael’s College)
Scott Milne (Tullamore RFC)
Shane Mallon (Longford RFC-Roscrea/UCD)
Lucas Berti Newman (Newbridge College)(u19)

Dan Carroll is still in school

[mildlyinterested]

Dan Carroll is still in school

ah yes, my mistake.

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster Rugby Development XV vs. Connacht Rugby Development XV

15. Dylan O’Grady (Belvedere College)(u20)
14. Fionn Gibbons (Castleknock College)(u20)
13. Conor Gibney (CBS Mullingar/Mullingar RFC)(u20)
12. Ben Brownlee (Blackrock College)(u20)
11. Aitzol Arenzana-King (CUS/Balbriggan)(u20)
10. Charlie Tector (Kilkenny College/Lansdowne FC)(u20)
9. Seanan Devereux (St. Mary’s College)(u20)
1. Ben Popplewell (Wexford Wanderers/Blackrock College)(u20)
2. John McKee (Old Belvedere RFC) CAPTAIN
3. Thomas Connolly (DUFC)
4. Fionn McWey (Cistercian College Roscrea)(u20)
5. Conor Ó Tighearnaigh (St. Michael’s College)(u20)
6. Will McDonald (IQ Rugby)(u20)
7. Dylan Ryan (St. Michael’s College/DUFC)
8. Donough Lawlor (Newbridge College)(u20)(u20)

Replacements

16. Barry Gray (Colaiste Lorcáin, Castledermot/Clontarf FC)(u20)
17. Oisín Michel (Partrician Secondary School, Newbridge/Lansdowne FC)(u20)
18. Michael McCormack (St. Mary’s College RFC)
19. Paul Deeny (St. Peter’s College, Wexford/Clontarf FC)(u20)
20. Jonathan Ross (Belvedere College)(u20)
21. Conor Duggan (St. Vincent’s Castleknock College)(u20)
22. Daniel Hawkshaw (Belvedere College)(u20)
23. Callam O’Reilly (St. Michael’s College)(u20)

[Props Have Feelings Too]

Interested if anyone knows if Marcus Kiely is still in consideration? Seems to have dropped out of view.

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster Rugby Development XV vs. Connacht Rugby Development XV

15. Dylan O’Grady (Belvedere College)(u20)
14. Fionn Gibbons (Castleknock College)(u20)
13. Conor Gibney (Mullingar RFC)(u20)
12. Ben Brownlee (Blackrock College)(u20)
11. Aitzol Arenzana-King (CUS-Balbriggan RFC)(u20)
10. Charlie Tector (Kilkenny College/Lansdowne FC)(u20)
9. Seanan Devereux (St. Mary’s College)(u20)
1. Ben Popplewell (Wexford RFC/Blackrock College)(u20)
2. John McKee (Old Belvedere RFC) CAPTAIN
3. Thomas Connolly (DUFC)
4. Fionn McWey (Portlaoise RFC-Cistercian College Roscrea)(u20)
5. Conor Ó Tighearnaigh (St. Michael’s College)(u20)
6. Will McDonald (IQ Rugby)(u20)
7. Dylan Ryan (St. Michael’s College/DUFC)
8. Donough Lawlor (Newbridge College)(u20)(u20)

Replacements
16. Barry Gray (Carlow RFC/Clontarf FC)(u20)
17. Oisín Michel (Cill Dara RFC/Lansdowne FC)(u20)
18. Michael McCormack (St. Mary’s College RFC)
19. Paul Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf FC)(u20)
20. Jonathan Ross (Belvedere College)(u20)
21. Conor Duggan (St. Vincent’s Castleknock College)(u20)
22. Daniel Hawkshaw (Belvedere College)(u20)
23. Callam O’Reilly (St. Michael’s College)(u20)

No Fionn O'Hara is notable, you'd hope he hasn't been let go but he may have been. Only 3 players not u20 qualified.

Other notable u20's missing:
Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
Rory McGuire(TH Prop)
James Culhane(Backrow)
Sean Walsh(Lock)
Mark Morrissey(Lock)
Diarmuid Mangan(Lock-Blindside)(u19)
Michael Moloney(Scrumhalf)
Oisin Devitt(Scrumhalf)
Sam Prendergast(Outhalf)(u19)
Shane Mallon(Wing)

[mildlyinterested]

Interested if anyone knows if Marcus Kiely is still in consideration? Seems to have dropped out of view.

playing club rugby at the moment with Trinity, so not currently in consideration it would appear.