Yeah I know. We lose Bent. We sign a new TH, upgrade an academy TH (early?) (and announce Vakh is back I think). It feels like the TH side is being stacked - it just feels it's being prepped for "really sensible decision" to balance the props - Porter to LH or Munster.mildlyinterested wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 11:53 amMichael Bent is returning to NZ.The Doc wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 11:46 amHmmm - last couple of days look like beefing up our TH roster. In advance of somebody moving off it? Either to LH or to another teamhugonaut wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 11:40 am
Good for him. He outplayed his academy contract and deserves the salary bump. He has been very well-regarded in the academy set-up, from what I have heard anecdotally. Very keen competitive edge and a resilient character.
He's very, very young for a senior tighthead, loads of room for growth and improvement.
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I like your right leg. A lovely leg for the role.
I've got nothing against your right leg.
The trouble is ... neither have you
I've got nothing against your right leg.
The trouble is ... neither have you
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Search S&C and you'll probably find it then. But all you'll find is "bUt wE geT So MaNy InJUriEs" backed up by no stats to compare our injury rate to other rugby clubs, a couple of stats that show our injury rate actually isn't bad compared to other clubs. Evidence that other sports teams pay very large sums of money to access injury prevention systems that were developed by people at Leinster Rugby. And evidence that S&C staff that work for Leinster are very sought after by teams in all sorts of sports.Oldschoolsocks wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 12:35 pm I have no opinion on whether these peeps are good at their job or not, I’d be more interested in what systems/methods are being programmed and how they map to other similar sports.
If you want to know about the theory behind Leinsters S&C program there are couple of articles about it but you won't get anything from the S&C conversation that certain users bring up over and over on here because the conversation never gets that far because its very quickly established that the people that start the conversion haven't the slightest what they're talking about.
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CoolWorkhorse wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 1:57 pmSearch S&C and you'll probably find it then. But all you'll find is "bUt wE geT So MaNNy InJUriEs" backed up by no stats to compare our injury rate to other rugby clubs, a couple of stats that show our injury rate actually isn't bad compared to other clubs. Evidence that other sports teams pay very large sums of money to access injury prevention systems that were developed by people at Leinster Rugby. And evidence that S&C staff that work for Leinster are very sought after by teams in all sorts of sports.Oldschoolsocks wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 12:35 pm I have no opinion on whether these peeps are good at their job or not, I’d be more interested in what systems/methods are being programmed and how they map to other similar sports.
If you want to know about the theory behind Leinsters S&C program there are couple of articles about it but you won't get anything from the S&C convention that certain users bring up over and over on here because the conversation never gets that far because its very quickly established that the people that start the conversion haven't the slightest what they're talking about.
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Hawkshaw promoted too.
Milne up tomorrow?
Milne up tomorrow?
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I thought Hawkshaw was decent in the few outings he had this season; seems more suited to 12 than 10
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Roughly when will the academy intake for next year be announced?
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likely not until after the u20 6 nations would be my guess. but it's anyone's guess tbh, usually no logic to when it's announced.erskinechilders wrote: ↑April 17th, 2021, 10:13 am Roughly when will the academy intake for next year be announced?
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Hawkshaw back training today.
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Potential Academy next season:
Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Jack Boyle(St. Michaels/UFC) - Y1
Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Lee Barron(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Y1
Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - Y3
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y2
Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Y2
Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - Y3
Ben Murphy(Pres Bary/Old Wesley) - Y1
Outhalf
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - Y1
Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y3
Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC/Naas) - Y2
Back Three
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - Y2
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Y2
Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels/UCD) - Y1
Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Jack Boyle(St. Michaels/UFC) - Y1
Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Lee Barron(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Y1
Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - Y3
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y2
Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Y2
Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - Y3
Ben Murphy(Pres Bary/Old Wesley) - Y1
Outhalf
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - Y1
Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y3
Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC/Naas) - Y2
Back Three
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - Y2
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Y2
Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels/UCD) - Y1
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If thats the case, 60% of the academy intake will be from Moichaels
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Based on his performances you hardly think Tim Corkery deserves an academy spot?mildlyinterested wrote: ↑April 20th, 2021, 9:25 am Potential Academy next season:
Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Jack Boyle(St. Michaels/UFC) - Y1
Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Lee Barron(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Y1
Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - Y3
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y2
Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Y2
Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - Y3
Ben Murphy(Pres Bary/Old Wesley) - Y1
Outhalf
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - Y1
Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y3
Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC/Naas) - Y2
Back Three
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - Y2
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Y2
Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels/UCD) - Y1
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No Mark Hernan?mildlyinterested wrote: ↑April 20th, 2021, 9:25 am Potential Academy next season:
Prop
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Jack Boyle(St. Michaels/UFC) - Y1
Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - Y2
Lee Barron(St. Michaels/DUFC) - Y1
Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - Y3
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y2
Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - Y3
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - Y2
Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - Y3
Ben Murphy(Pres Bary/Old Wesley) - Y1
Outhalf
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - Y1
Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - Y3
Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC/Naas) - Y2
Back Three
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - Y2
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - Y2
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Y2
Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels/UCD) - Y1
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Re: Leinster Academy 20-21
what I think hardly matters when it comes to who will be in the academy next season.
saying that I do not write off a 19 year old based off of one A game, he has spent two seasons in the sub-academy and has played for the senior team at 19.. he is obviously talented so I'm not going to be outraged if he is in the academy next season.
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For sure, would have the opposite reaction there — the fact he has played senior rugby already practically guarantees he’s in the academy. Many players aren’t trusted on the pitch until Y2 / Y3.
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You think Moloney is valued highly enough to repeat Y3 despite injuries Mildy?
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He is Y2 at the minute.
Current Y3's:
Milne, Patterson, Hawkshaw, O'Sullivan, Silvester.
Y2's:
Clarkson, Ryan, Deeny, Moloney, Foley, Turner
Y1's:
Hanan, McKee, McCarthy, Soroka, SOB, Osborne, O'Reilly, Comerford, Smith
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Fair enough.
Somehow I thought this was his 3rd year already.
Hopefully he gets a break with injuries either way.
Somehow I thought this was his 3rd year already.
Hopefully he gets a break with injuries either way.
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Wasn't sure where to ask this, please redirect to another thread if appropriate.
When the Centre of Excellence in Donnybrook opened in 2019, it was said that four further facilities were planned for the Midlands, North-Midlands, South-East and the North-East. Does anyone have any news of developments on this front?
When the Centre of Excellence in Donnybrook opened in 2019, it was said that four further facilities were planned for the Midlands, North-Midlands, South-East and the North-East. Does anyone have any news of developments on this front?