COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
I'd love to know what the story is with Molony and ROL, no mention of them this week.
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COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
It was called cramp v Ulster; but didn't he have a 'foot injury' that meant Frawley was a late change v Edinburgh the previous week. I'd say he had more than just cramp and he's definitely being cotton wooled.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Like the pack. Nice to see Porter get a start and good to see Penny on the bench. Kearney's form makes that second row look a lot stronger than it would have done a few months back.
As much as I like Noel, not liking the fact that we seem to be wrapping Ross in cotton wool because it points to us being worried about either himself or Johnny, or maybe both. Thought Ross looked injured last week but a few reports said it was just cramp...hmmm. That reminds me that I still think his fitness might have played a part in his 6N omission, he really does go down with cramp an awful lot.
Can't understand why we'd go with Tomane at 12. I don't mind him getting games to get up to speed, but COB should really be at 12 and after his last performance I think 23 is where Tomane should be.
It's unlikely to happen but would love to see Tommy O'Brien before the end of season, not sure how bad his injury is.
Just looks like a 12 to me.........big strong version of Darcy !!wixfjord wrote:COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
I'd love to know what the story is with Molony and ROL, no mention of them this week.
It was announced that ROL wouldn't be back for this weekend due to the injury he picked up against Ulster.wixfjord wrote:COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
I'd love to know what the story is with Molony and ROL, no mention of them this week.
O'Loughlin went off with a slight hamstring strain on Saturday. Was reported by Leinster at the start of the week that he wouldn't be available for this match.wixfjord wrote:COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
I'd love to know what the story is with Molony and ROL, no mention of them this week.
Personally with Noel leaving and Tomanes underwhelming performances to date there’s a good chance with COB to be second choice 12. Locko is better at 13 reallywixfjord wrote:COB has played a lot at 13. 3/4 starts already this season there.Blueberry wrote:COB is an odd call at 13.........12 surely.
I'd love to know what the story is with Molony and ROL, no mention of them this week.
Week too soonetak252 wrote:Any mention of Johnnny ?
I think a young Sean O'Brien could be his best template to be honest. He could definitely follow that model of ball carry and breakdown specialist.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Funny that Leo mentioned the "seven and a half" thing, was thinking recently that Deegan might end up being the first player of that type.
Savea is doing something similar but usually it's about putting an explosive flanker at eight, not a rangy eight to seven.
Look at the S African models from Jake White era or earlier. Juan Smith or Bobby Skinstad are guys built like and skills like Deegan. There's always been more than one way to play No 7 and Fergus Slattery probably never visited a breakdown before he was 30, but by then he had been playing a decade for Ireland.CiaranIrl wrote:I think a young Sean O'Brien could be his best template to be honest. He could definitely follow that model of ball carry and breakdown specialist.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Funny that Leo mentioned the "seven and a half" thing, was thinking recently that Deegan might end up being the first player of that type.
Savea is doing something similar but usually it's about putting an explosive flanker at eight, not a rangy eight to seven.
SOB's template was work hard, run harder. At his best he was an 80 minute impact player. We might as well tell Max to be more like Stander.CiaranIrl wrote:I think a young Sean O'Brien could be his best template to be honest. He could definitely follow that model of ball carry and breakdown specialist.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Funny that Leo mentioned the "seven and a half" thing, was thinking recently that Deegan might end up being the first player of that type.
Savea is doing something similar but usually it's about putting an explosive flanker at eight, not a rangy eight to seven.
David Wallace was the quintessential 7.5. He probably would have been an 8 but for Foley and the fact that he had to do O'Gara's tackling.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Funny that Leo mentioned the "seven and a half" thing, was thinking recently that Deegan might end up being the first player of that type.
Savea is doing something similar but usually it's about putting an explosive flanker at eight, not a rangy eight to seven.
Or even not so subtle....LeinsterLeader wrote:A bit of a subtle dig dig from Leo there?
"We want to produce most of our own players, we have a couple of guys from outside and it's important that we're not 100pc all Leinster because then you'd have a narrow focus as well.
"The experience that we get from outside, it's hugely important that they are constantly adding to the group.
"But we'd love to be able to sit here and say, 'isn't it amazing that 60pc of Ulster's players are from Leinster', another 50 over in Connacht and another 50 over in Munster...' that'd be an amazing reflection on the work that goes on here.
"We just need to keep focusing on what we do in producing good players, because we want to see quality players come through the system and make a career out of the game.
"That's what we're trying to do, trying to improve players.
Yep read that in the42. The comments below are funny and a bit sad.LeinsterLeader wrote:A bit of a subtle dig dig from Leo there?
"We want to produce most of our own players, we have a couple of guys from outside and it's important that we're not 100pc all Leinster because then you'd have a narrow focus as well.
"The experience that we get from outside, it's hugely important that they are constantly adding to the group.
"But we'd love to be able to sit here and say, 'isn't it amazing that 60pc of Ulster's players are from Leinster', another 50 over in Connacht and another 50 over in Munster...' that'd be an amazing reflection on the work that goes on here.
"We just need to keep focusing on what we do in producing good players, because we want to see quality players come through the system and make a career out of the game.
"That's what we're trying to do, trying to improve players.
"travel logistics" ? Now that's a new one.The real achievements here are things like how Munster have developed 5 good professional players and Ireland underage reps from west cork which is gaa mad territory. Or how Connacht have managed to progress with a dwindling rural population of less than half of Dublin and the travel logistics the west of Ireland brings with development squads. So while leinsters conveyor is flying along let’s not try to be too disparaging of other provinces great efforts in poorer circumstances – numbers, money and travel logistics.