Poite should be raked over the coals for this. Entirely unsafe refereeing at best, corruption and bias at the worst.LeinsterLeader wrote:Just seen it on Youtube. How was that not a red? That was shocking
Would love to hear the reasons they talked that down to a yellow
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JohnB wrote:Not only did Tekori hit him in the head with his shoulder he also seemed to hold onto his arm on the ground which appears to have contributed to his shoulder damage. I’ll be amazed if he is not cited.
That is right. I am pretty sure he will be cited, but will he be before or after the HCup Semi final?
Toulouse used several time violence today against a B side of Clermont. It is ok in Top14, it could be useless next week.
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Would anyone really drop Ruddock for Fardy? Can’t see it. Ruddocks been tearing it up especially in the HCC, been excellent this season. I’m a fan of Fardy but the captain won’t be dropped to make way for him. For me it’s more a question of whether he starts or benches. Deegan with a fighters chance of starting at 7 ahead of SOB.
Think if there was a chance of HOS making the bench ahead of JCB we’d have seen more of him in the game gone that didn’t mean anything. We’ll see I suppose. Don’t think JTC gave a great account of himself on Saturday, it was like a bad impression of Luke (complete with a few wayward passes). Just seems like if he’s not trying to whip it out ASAP he takes too long or makes the “wrong” decision. It was weird game though and the fizz really went out of it when Furlong went off injured IMO. We weren’t all that bothered after that really.
Think if there was a chance of HOS making the bench ahead of JCB we’d have seen more of him in the game gone that didn’t mean anything. We’ll see I suppose. Don’t think JTC gave a great account of himself on Saturday, it was like a bad impression of Luke (complete with a few wayward passes). Just seems like if he’s not trying to whip it out ASAP he takes too long or makes the “wrong” decision. It was weird game though and the fizz really went out of it when Furlong went off injured IMO. We weren’t all that bothered after that really.
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I think Patterson might have been a better bet than O'Sullivan, but he'd probably have needed some gametime in recent matches to be in the running.
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Only saw the first half but couldn't believe there was no sanction against the Toulouse 6 for his late hit on Nanai Williams. Should have been a yellow card and a penalty on the restart for Clermont.VGE wrote:JohnB wrote:Not only did Tekori hit him in the head with his shoulder he also seemed to hold onto his arm on the ground which appears to have contributed to his shoulder damage. I’ll be amazed if he is not cited.
That is right. I am pretty sure he will be cited, but will he be before or after the HCup Semi final?
Toulouse used several time violence today against a B side of Clermont. It is ok in Top14, it could be useless next week.
Au revoir.
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It was another amazing display of non-refereeing by Poite. Apart from the incredible non-red, he completely ignored players flying in from the side and off their feet.FLIP wrote:Poite should be raked over the coals for this. Entirely unsafe refereeing at best, corruption and bias at the worst.LeinsterLeader wrote:Just seen it on Youtube. How was that not a red? That was shocking
Would love to hear the reasons they talked that down to a yellow
The hooker being stretchered off (in a neck brace) effectively won the game for Toulouse. Clermont lost most, if not all, of their own lineouts afterwards - Parra was throwing.
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Dexter wrote:It was another amazing display of non-refereeing by Poite. Apart from the incredible non-red, he completely ignored players flying in from the side and off their feet.FLIP wrote:Poite should be raked over the coals for this. Entirely unsafe refereeing at best, corruption and bias at the worst.LeinsterLeader wrote:Just seen it on Youtube. How was that not a red? That was shocking
Would love to hear the reasons they talked that down to a yellow
The hooker being stretchered off (in a neck brace) effectively won the game for Toulouse. Clermont lost most, if not all, of their own lineouts afterwards - Parra was throwing.
Parra then Laidlaw. We lost all our lineouts that way and probably the game because of it. Note the yellow card against Fritz Lee 3 mns after the one against Tekori, remember the non yellow card(s) when Nanaï Williams had been targeted, try to hear how Poite explains to justify a yellow card against Tekori (non intentional for him), you can begin to understand why french rugby is sick.
Anyway, Toulouse can't play that kind of game in European Cup, unless they would try to play with 3 red cards. But some of them players got a real talent. Look at Kolbe's try, he can beat 3 players even with a involuntarily sliding. They can score each time you lose the ball. So don't lose it, and see you in Newcastle.
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Only saw the second half yesterday but what a game that was. It's a real pity that Clermont aren't in the Champions Cup, they're easily one of the best teams in Europe and play great stuff.
Curious to see where Dupont starts next week. The commentator thought it was a given that he'll be back at 9 but I wouldn't be so sure. Kaino very flat footed and acres of space in behind for that chip through try off the back of a lineout for Clermont.
The Tekori thing was a clear red card and I really don't understand how it wasn't, clear shoulder to the head. I would love if World Rugby used that incident to outlaw tackling on the wrong side. That's what puts people in a dangerous position (both the tackler and tackled player) and makes it dangerous every single time it happens. How many times do we see someone scrambling across to save a try and then getting injured because they went with the wrong shoulder?
Curious to see where Dupont starts next week. The commentator thought it was a given that he'll be back at 9 but I wouldn't be so sure. Kaino very flat footed and acres of space in behind for that chip through try off the back of a lineout for Clermont.
The Tekori thing was a clear red card and I really don't understand how it wasn't, clear shoulder to the head. I would love if World Rugby used that incident to outlaw tackling on the wrong side. That's what puts people in a dangerous position (both the tackler and tackled player) and makes it dangerous every single time it happens. How many times do we see someone scrambling across to save a try and then getting injured because they went with the wrong shoulder?
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The more I think of it the more I think that Poite was told to keep his red card in his pocket so that Toulouse weren't affected next week. It couldn't been more obvious that it was a red.
Hope the player who went off is alright, haven't heard anything.
Hope the player who went off is alright, haven't heard anything.
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God, I love the week leading into the European knockout stages. Full Leinster gear all week long.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:The more I think of it the more I think that Poite was told to keep his red card in his pocket so that Toulouse weren't affected next week. It couldn't been more obvious that it was a red.
Hope the player who went off is alright, haven't heard anything.
Béhérégaray (the hooker) is ok.
And Poite has always been a poor referee with violence.
Au revoir.
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It's not exactly sold out (so far) - not the first time semi finals tickets are difficult to shift. Don't know if it's (a) pricing, (b) quick turnaround, (c) the marketing of them - or all three
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Merci!VGE wrote:
Béhérégaray (the hooker) is ok.
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I would say it's mainly the pricing and it being on Easter SundayThe Doc wrote:It's not exactly sold out (so far) - not the first time semi finals tickets are difficult to shift. Don't know if it's (a) pricing, (b) quick turnaround, (c) the marketing of them - or all three
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Coupled with pi**ed off STH's at the seat selection we were offered as long-term supporters.Leinster Lout wrote:I would say it's mainly the pricing and it being on Easter SundayThe Doc wrote:It's not exactly sold out (so far) - not the first time semi finals tickets are difficult to shift. Don't know if it's (a) pricing, (b) quick turnaround, (c) the marketing of them - or all three
But, main factor from conversations on Sat is already organised family gatherings on Easter Sunday - now commencing at 12.30 and including watching the game on the box!
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Weather is going to be cracking for game day anyway. Looking forward to it.
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A sudden rainstorm pre-kick off would suit us fine!
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Glad to hear it, it was a really nasty incident. I can't for the life of me understand how that wasn't a straight red. There were a number of cheap shots and late hits during the game which were nasty but that hit could have caused very very serious injury. That has to be a citing and ban.VGE wrote:LeRouxIsPHat wrote:The more I think of it the more I think that Poite was told to keep his red card in his pocket so that Toulouse weren't affected next week. It couldn't been more obvious that it was a red.
Hope the player who went off is alright, haven't heard anything.
Béhérégaray (the hooker) is ok.
And Poite has always been a poor referee with violence.
Au revoir.
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Ok doesn't mean safe. He will probably not play for a while.
Top 14 is out of time. Toulouse is said to play a "beautiful game" but played in a violent register yesterday. Poite is unable to make a good job in that kind of situation, that is not new.
Imo at least Tekori, Arnold and Elstad should be cited. Anyway, if so, it could be after the european semi.
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Top 14 is out of time. Toulouse is said to play a "beautiful game" but played in a violent register yesterday. Poite is unable to make a good job in that kind of situation, that is not new.
Imo at least Tekori, Arnold and Elstad should be cited. Anyway, if so, it could be after the european semi.
Au revoir.
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Have to say, still worried about our lack of form
It was good to see Robbie and Dev back but overall we still haven't clicked at all this side of Christmas.
It was good to see Robbie and Dev back but overall we still haven't clicked at all this side of Christmas.