The same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
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Based on his work in Connacht and subsequently with the U.20's Jimmy Duffy is the forwards coach who has wrought some of the best improvement in forwards scrum and maul in Provincial rugby in recent years. Doesn't have the stellar playing career at the top level like others such as Hines or Jeremy Davidson but he certainly produces the goods.
Certainly wouldn't mind him turning up in Leinster.
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Think Steve Borthwick was the forwards coach while Eddie Jones was there.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 amThe same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
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He was lineout. Scrum was Marc dal Maso.cormac wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 8:33 amThink Steve Borthwick was the forwards coach while Eddie Jones was there.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 amThe same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
There's a video of Eddie Jones talking about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsdEOzpMI9Q
And a video showing how much they improved under him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6z1rwo1aP8
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Jesus where is he now and how quickly can we sign him up!leinsterforever wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 8:57 amHe was lineout. Scrum was Marc dal Maso.cormac wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 8:33 amThink Steve Borthwick was the forwards coach while Eddie Jones was there.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 am
The same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?
There's a video of Eddie Jones talking about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsdEOzpMI9Q
And a video showing how much they improved under him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6z1rwo1aP8
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I raised the question here a few weeks/months ago because some wum Welsh journalist was claiming he was the secret to Leinster’s success.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 amThe same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
I think it’s fair to say that we have regressed in all areas of forward play, apart from maybe the ruck (which is not really forward coaching domain or forward play, per se).
The scrum has definitely regressed while he has been here, but there are mitigating factors: changed personnel being key. At best, his record in overseeing the transition in our scrum is mixed.
Is he responsible for any other aspects of forward coaching? Because we have regressed everywhere, so if he isn’t, then replacing him won’t be a silver bullet.
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https://www.unitedrugby.com/statistics
Munster have statistically the 2nd best scrum but were joint 13th on scrum penalties won, i.e. next to dead last.
There are anomalies for lineout too. Those stats are worthless.
Munster have statistically the 2nd best scrum but were joint 13th on scrum penalties won, i.e. next to dead last.
There are anomalies for lineout too. Those stats are worthless.
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Well from what the players were saying prior to leamy being signed up to go back to Munster, that he was the main reason our rucks have been so good and that leamy did a huge amount of work with the team on perfecting thatcurates_egg wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 12:02 pmI raised the question here a few weeks/months ago because some wum Welsh journalist was claiming he was the secret to Leinster’s success.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 amThe same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
I think it’s fair to say that we have regressed in all areas of forward play, apart from maybe the ruck (which is not really forward coaching domain or forward play, per se).
The scrum has definitely regressed while he has been here, but there are mitigating factors: changed personnel being key. At best, his record in overseeing the transition in our scrum is mixed.
Is he responsible for any other aspects of forward coaching? Because we have regressed everywhere, so if he isn’t, then replacing him won’t be a silver bullet.
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David Havili of the Crusaders speaking very well of Andrew Goodman after their final this morning. Said he was one of the best coaches he's ever had. Good to hear. He's coming from a winning environment too. That can't be bad.
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Havili was emotional about Goodman’s departure, serious endorsement.
I wonder what role he’ll fill and am interested in the general dynamics of the coaching team for next year. The big change would be if Leo moves upstairs to replace Dawson. Presume Lancaster would become head coach which would see further changes to the ticket
I wonder what role he’ll fill and am interested in the general dynamics of the coaching team for next year. The big change would be if Leo moves upstairs to replace Dawson. Presume Lancaster would become head coach which would see further changes to the ticket
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The progress of Kelleher, Sheehan, Boyle, Ed Byrne and McKee during McBryde's tenure can't be ignored. However, based on performances for Leinster, as opposed to Ireland, Furlong and Porter have stalled this year, or maybe we're not using them properly. Without adequate power coming through from the second and back row, even the highest quality front-rows can't be dominant in scrums or mauls.
As scrum and maul technique becomes more technical, there is a levelling down to physicality. Watching Crusaders & Blues this morning, the scrums were genuinely used as restarts with both No 8's able to pick any ball they wanted. The mauls were much more a contest of which pack wanted to choose to attack their opponents at front or back. There was also a considerable number of mid-field line-out throws, particularly by the Blues as their line-out was put under pressure.
Overall, The Leinster scrum has not impressed me in important games this year, but our maul has. However, I think that our use of maul and line-out variations has been stale and generally poor, in big games. We're too predictable and we rarely surprise opponents.
As scrum and maul technique becomes more technical, there is a levelling down to physicality. Watching Crusaders & Blues this morning, the scrums were genuinely used as restarts with both No 8's able to pick any ball they wanted. The mauls were much more a contest of which pack wanted to choose to attack their opponents at front or back. There was also a considerable number of mid-field line-out throws, particularly by the Blues as their line-out was put under pressure.
Overall, The Leinster scrum has not impressed me in important games this year, but our maul has. However, I think that our use of maul and line-out variations has been stale and generally poor, in big games. We're too predictable and we rarely surprise opponents.
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The rugby paper saying that Racing are after Lancaster for next summer. Can’t read the article but don’t think there’s any suggestion that it’s happening, just that they want him, as I’m sure a lot of clubs do.
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https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/le ... 29217.htmlLeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 12:07 pm The rugby paper saying that Racing are after Lancaster for next summer. Can’t read the article but don’t think there’s any suggestion that it’s happening, just that they want him, as I’m sure a lot of clubs do.
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In a paper of such repute? Must be a fact so. Bye Stu, thanks for the memories.D4surfer wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 10:49 pmhttps://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/le ... 29217.htmlLeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 12:07 pm The rugby paper saying that Racing are after Lancaster for next summer. Can’t read the article but don’t think there’s any suggestion that it’s happening, just that they want him, as I’m sure a lot of clubs do.
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For Lancaster to take a job which would take more time away from his family, Racing would have to be have huge buy in from the players for a change of culture. And for a bunch of highly paid primadonnas who are overly found of the patisserie I just don't see that happening, and therefore don't think Lancaster will want to do it. He's already seen first hand what happens when players won't buy into his ways.D4surfer wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 10:49 pmhttps://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/le ... 29217.htmlLeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 12:07 pm The rugby paper saying that Racing are after Lancaster for next summer. Can’t read the article but don’t think there’s any suggestion that it’s happening, just that they want him, as I’m sure a lot of clubs do.
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This is just the Indo reporting other reports. Nothing original in that piece.D4surfer wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 10:49 pmhttps://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/le ... 29217.htmlLeRouxIsPHat wrote: ↑July 10th, 2022, 12:07 pm The rugby paper saying that Racing are after Lancaster for next summer. Can’t read the article but don’t think there’s any suggestion that it’s happening, just that they want him, as I’m sure a lot of clubs do.
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This must be the first article linking Stu with another job. Since he join d Leinster. We should be terrified…
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John Plumtree is a free agent…curates_egg wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 12:02 pmI raised the question here a few weeks/months ago because some wum Welsh journalist was claiming he was the secret to Leinster’s success.sunshiner1 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:06 amThe same. I wasn't blown away when he came in but now it seems he's either stale or has been found out. Would like a new person in with new ideas. Can anyone remember who was the scrum coach with Japan when Jones was in charge of them is?by jezzer
His job is to get the best out of the squad he has and i don't believe that's happening. Based on those comments on Wales Online i get the impression he's not very aligned with the coaching direction. That's ok if you're a constructive counterpoint to the groupthink, but there's a sulky whiff off McBryde. I'd have thought he'd be the kind of guy players would go to war for, but i think the reverse could be true. Just my interpretation of what I'm seeing, reading and hearing - zero inside knowledge.
I think it’s fair to say that we have regressed in all areas of forward play, apart from maybe the ruck (which is not really forward coaching domain or forward play, per se).
The scrum has definitely regressed while he has been here, but there are mitigating factors: changed personnel being key. At best, his record in overseeing the transition in our scrum is mixed.
Is he responsible for any other aspects of forward coaching? Because we have regressed everywhere, so if he isn’t, then replacing him won’t be a silver bullet.
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Independent reporting that Declan Darcy is joining Leinster a performance coach.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic ... 75776.html
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic ... 75776.html
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Very interesting, he's highly rated in Dublin GAA.cormac wrote: ↑July 29th, 2022, 8:58 am Independent reporting that Declan Darcy is joining Leinster a performance coach.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic ... 75776.html
Would've been touted as a potential Dessie Farrell successor and was part of Gavin's management team for the 5 in a row.
If Cullen/Stu think he's a good fit then he should add to the team.
Good to have different perspectives from outside too.