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I watched some of that match live, he had the game of his life, his Orquera moment if you willblockhead wrote:Watch the Aviva highlights last night. That Steenson lad looks very handy indeed.
If that's sterling, I doubt very much whether he'll be on anything close to it. It wouldn't be unreasonable for Gopperth to take something of a pay-cut to play in the Heineken Cup instead of mucking it in the Championship. He's a very talented player who has been something of a nearly man in terms of his generation of NZ fly-halves. Definitely deserved more than 1 cap for the Junior ABs when you consider the number of players who have been given full international honours by NZ over the past 5-10 years.Armchair wrote:He will and maybe a small bit more even. Turnips will have to pay RoG around the same next year to stop him retiring. Who would you rather have?Keith wrote:According to a Falcons fan. He was on 200k+ a year. I hope he isn't costing us that much.
How does the bonus system work? I'm not sure i want Outhalf to be bonused on try scoring for exampleto be honest...AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
Are you sure the bonus system applies at Leinster ?AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
bonuses vary on a contract to contract player to player basis, its very rare in the AP because bonuses count as salary when looking at the salary cap. I think that Leinster offer an Appearance, a Starting, and a MOTM bonus to most of their players.AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
A motm bonus - is this normal? Has Frankie used RTE to enrich his clients?naraic wrote:bonuses vary on a contract to contract player to player basis, its very rare in the AP because bonuses count as salary when looking at the salary cap. I think that Leinster offer an Appearance, a Starting, and a MOTM bonus to most of their players.AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
He probably gets a cut under the terms of his deal with his clientsribs wrote: A motm bonus - is this normal? Has Frankie used RTE to enrich his clients?
That's a ringing endorsement....sounds like we signed Dan Carter!Herdwicks wrote:Falcons fan here just to say you've signed one hell of a player. Signed as the replacement for the departing Jonny Wilkinson after 12 years of service, he has proved to be the complete package for a fly half. Impeccable goal kicking, immense speed with agile-ness and he tackles everything. Those saying Joel is better are indeed fibbing however Joel shows amazing skill for someone aged 20. Real shame for falcons fans that the club has rather imploded in the last two years due to a combination of a lack of funds and poor coaching. Jimmy easily owns madigan, and he's better than nick evans. Had he been in newzealand for the rwc I would have picked him over colin slade.
Everyone is sad to see him leave but we wish him well going to such a successful club like leinster playing hc rugby.
Look after him
It might explain Madigan's great try scoring statsFlash Gordon wrote: How does the bonus system work? I'm not sure i want Outhalf to be bonused on try scoring for exampleto be honest...
Maybe ROG got bonususes for territory gained. Would explain a lot.AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
those culchies and their landblockhead wrote:Maybe ROG got bonususes for territory gained. Would explain a lot.AdamK wrote:Don't forget you get bonuses in our setup; assists, tries, points kicked, games won, all come with monetary bonuses. So even if he did take a cut in salary, he has incentive to make it up.
Having said that, I have no idea what, if any, the bonuses are in the AP/championship.
Ruan Pienaar.ratpack wrote: Would love Will Genia though!!!!
Dave Cahill wrote:I know you're not stirring, don't worry about that!rooster wrote: In that case Dave why then bring in a NIQ when there are just as good already at home ?
Not stirring or anything here by the way just trying to get my head around it.
My thoughts are probably the same as David Humphreys on this, which is bring in NIQ players who add overall to the side and pass knowledge on to younger players but if they are not any better than your own players they should not be brought in at all.
What happens next season for the HEC matches, do you trust Madigan or do you play Gopperth ? If you play Gopperth then you have conceded he is better than Madigan so why in that case did you not go for a really good replacement for JS ?
As things stand, Leinster have decided that, ceteris paribus, Madigan will be our starting 10 next season. We have a young fella in Reid also but hes very callow, and thats not going to work for a team that aims to challenge in Europe and domestically, so an experienced journeyman (and I mean that in its more literal sense than the derogatory sense that it has evolved into) is required. Hes this years Shaun Berne or Matt Berquist. Now it could be that Madigans form falls off a cliff and Gopperth ends up starting, but its not the plan from what I can see.
True!Vamos los azules wrote:It might explain Madigan's great try scoring statsFlash Gordon wrote: How does the bonus system work? I'm not sure i want Outhalf to be bonused on try scoring for exampleto be honest...
When is Genia contracted up to with ARU? He'd be a great bit of business given our slight age gap for development of scrummies between the ageing Reds/Boss and he'd be a perfect bridge in there developing the up and coming guys. Plus probably best scrum half in the world today.suisse wrote:Ruan Pienaar.ratpack wrote: Would love Will Genia though!!!!
Cuncti adsint meritaeque expectent praemia palmae...Le Duvet wrote:Love the use of Latin Dave. Class that the doc would have appreciated!
Dave Cahill wrote:I know you're not stirring, don't worry about that!rooster wrote: In that case Dave why then bring in a NIQ when there are just as good already at home ?
Not stirring or anything here by the way just trying to get my head around it.
My thoughts are probably the same as David Humphreys on this, which is bring in NIQ players who add overall to the side and pass knowledge on to younger players but if they are not any better than your own players they should not be brought in at all.
What happens next season for the HEC matches, do you trust Madigan or do you play Gopperth ? If you play Gopperth then you have conceded he is better than Madigan so why in that case did you not go for a really good replacement for JS ?
As things stand, Leinster have decided that, ceteris paribus, Madigan will be our starting 10 next season. We have a young fella in Reid also but hes very callow, and thats not going to work for a team that aims to challenge in Europe and domestically, so an experienced journeyman (and I mean that in its more literal sense than the derogatory sense that it has evolved into) is required. Hes this years Shaun Berne or Matt Berquist. Now it could be that Madigans form falls off a cliff and Gopperth ends up starting, but its not the plan from what I can see.
according to as per Google Translatejohng wrote:If he is better than Nick Evans then I am better than Jamie Heasliprooster wrote:If he is better than Nick Evans Madigan will only start if he is injured !wixfjord wrote:Better than Nick Evans!
Somehow I think that's unlikely, but one can hope!
