Leinster Squad 24-25

[theiceman]

Snyman hasn’t been named in Springbooks team for the weekend as he’s not match fit. Not looking good..

[paddyor]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster ... er-chiefs/

Any word on this? Could be a good move for him, but could affect our depth when the internationals are away.

Dunne is still at Sandy Park after putting pen to paper on a new contract early in the year after turning down a move to the Scarlets, but O’Loughlin, however, has now retired after failing to recover from a shoulder injury.

Hadn't heard this.

[mildlyinterested]

Snyman hasn’t been named in Springbooks team for the weekend as he’s not match fit. Not looking good..

why he isnt needed to play for Leinster for awhile.

[mildlyinterested]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster ... er-chiefs/

Any word on this? Could be a good move for him, but could affect our depth when the internationals are away.

Dunne is still at Sandy Park after putting pen to paper on a new contract early in the year after turning down a move to the Scarlets, but O’Loughlin, however, has now retired after failing to recover from a shoulder injury.

Hadn't heard this.

yeah announced late last season.

[the-goon2]

I did not know this.

Very unlucky with injury, wherever he goes I hope he has better luck on that front.

[the-goon2]

Where is our depth in the 2nd row going to come from this season. Currently we only have Deeny that won't be on regular international duty.

Are they hoping to give those minutes to Spicer and O'Tighearnaigh ? Or is Soroka fit, and a 2nd row option? Anyone else? Mangan? Does seem to be a big Ross shaped hole we haven't filled.

[paddyor]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

[FtD]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

What's the change to eligibility requirements?

I think they'll be planning for Deeny to play big minutes, maybe with Soroka also playing some minutes at second row in the URC too. Hopefully Conor O'Tighearnaigh will be able to contribute some games as well. Unsure on Spicer contributing too much - he's still an U20. I think he'll potentially tour SA with the squad and get capped down there, but dunno if I'd expect more than that.

I do think we look a body light in the second row.

[Morf]

I did not know this.

Very unlucky with injury, wherever he goes I hope he has better luck on that front.

Leinster did incredibly well by him. Probably got 2 more seasons than he would have in most teams with that injury record.

[naraic]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

What's the change to eligibility requirements?

The five year rule now refers to registration rather than eligibility.

This will mainly have an effect that certain young players attending boarding school in Ireland but going to their parents during the Summer will actually become Irish qualified earlier.

I don't see it effecting the status of projects.

I think they'll be planning for Deeny to play big minutes, maybe with Soroka also playing some minutes at second row in the URC too. Hopefully Conor O'Tighearnaigh will be able to contribute some games as well. Unsure on Spicer contributing too much - he's still an U20. I think he'll potentially tour SA with the squad and get capped down there, but dunno if I'd expect more than that.

I do think we look a body light in the second row.

Big opporuntiy for anyone who can contribute in the second row to step up.

Deeny has a brass ring to grab. COT and Soroka will get chances. Mangan is still listed as 6"6 but no believes he is more than 6"4.

Spicer and Corrigan need more time.

[ronk]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

What's the change to eligibility requirements?

The five year rule now refers to registration rather than eligibility.

This will mainly have an effect that certain young players attending boarding school in Ireland but going to their parents during the Summer will actually become Irish qualified earlier.

I don't see it effecting the status of projects.

I think they'll be planning for Deeny to play big minutes, maybe with Soroka also playing some minutes at second row in the URC too. Hopefully Conor O'Tighearnaigh will be able to contribute some games as well. Unsure on Spicer contributing too much - he's still an U20. I think he'll potentially tour SA with the squad and get capped down there, but dunno if I'd expect more than that.

I do think we look a body light in the second row.

Big opporuntiy for anyone who can contribute in the second row to step up.

Deeny has a brass ring to grab. COT and Soroka will get chances. Mangan is still listed as 6"6 but no believes he is more than 6"4.

Spicer and Corrigan need more time.

I think it mostly just simplifies the process so players don't miss out if they have an extended trip back while injured.

The paperwork is a lot simpler. Just registration, no proving residency and inspecting receipts.

[the-goon2]

I really fear for our set piece, particularly the scrum when the internationals are away. None of the props bar Slimani (who will play 50min per game max) are great scrummagers, and all the 2nd rows are young and light weight.

I think another away Semi final in the URC awaits us.

[paddyor]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

What's the change to eligibility requirements?

I think they'll be planning for Deeny to play big minutes, maybe with Soroka also playing some minutes at second row in the URC too. Hopefully Conor O'Tighearnaigh will be able to contribute some games as well. Unsure on Spicer contributing too much - he's still an U20. I think he'll potentially tour SA with the squad and get capped down there, but dunno if I'd expect more than that.

I do think we look a body light in the second row.

Seems I "misread" them. It's not especailly clear what they're saying tbf but it seems the upshot is it makes it easier for players to take extended breaks in their country of origin rather than playing abroad while registered in one country. MIght include loan spells who knows but I don't think it changes much on the project player front.

My suspicion is Baird will be pushed back into the 2nd row as and when needed and thzts the shape of things to come for Baird.

[paddyor]

I really fear for our set piece, particularly the scrum when the internationals are away. None of the props bar Slimani (who will play 50min per game max) are great scrummagers, and all the 2nd rows are young and light weight.

I think another away Semi final in the URC awaits us.

I was pretty happu with Clarksons progress last season. NOt the finished artile by any means but he cut a very different figure when he wasn't trudging around the pitch from peno to peno with a hang dog look

[curates_egg]

Slimani (who will play 50min per game max)

What makes you say that? He played a lot last season, and showed no sign of slowing up: 26 games/20 starts last season.
I'd say he'd have no problem putting in a 60-70 minute shift if necessary. He's been signed to scrummage - he can and will manage himself around the pitch.
I'd be far more worried about us relying on Healy, who has hardly played at all the past few seasons.

[the-goon2]

Purely on the basis that he is an aging, heavy set French prop not known for his fitness. Most T14 props are conditioned to only play 45-50 min, but be massive.

The thing is, in defense, you don't choose how much work you need to put in if they target you. So managing yourself isn't in your control.

[Laighin Break]

With the change to eligibility requirements, are projects back on the table?

What's the change to eligibility requirements?

I think they'll be planning for Deeny to play big minutes, maybe with Soroka also playing some minutes at second row in the URC too. Hopefully Conor O'Tighearnaigh will be able to contribute some games as well. Unsure on Spicer contributing too much - he's still an U20. I think he'll potentially tour SA with the squad and get capped down there, but dunno if I'd expect more than that.

I do think we look a body light in the second row.

Seems I "misread" them. It's not especailly clear what they're saying tbf but it seems the upshot is it makes it easier for players to take extended breaks in their country of origin rather than playing abroad while registered in one country. MIght include loan spells who knows but I don't think it changes much on the project player front.

My suspicion is Baird will be pushed back into the 2nd row as and when needed and thzts the shape of things to come for Baird.

Could be but I don't think that would really solve anything as Baird seems likely to be involved in plenty of Ireland match day 23s this coming season, so will be unavailable at the same time as Ryan and McCarthy

[arsebiscuits1]

Purely on the basis that he is an aging, heavy set French prop not known for his fitness. Most T14 props are conditioned to only play 45-50 min, but be massive.

The thing is, in defense, you don't choose how much work you need to put in if they target you. So managing yourself isn't in your control.

Slimani is just off the back of a 1500+ minute season with Clermont (32 games, 25 starts, avg 50 mins)

Ala'alatoa (who I'd say we flogged a bit at times) never got above 1200 minutes for us (947, 1137, 1152 - not including intl minutes here)

Naturally I can't speak to the quality of those increased minutes. The Top14 plays more games and can play at a very different pace to the URC. Certainly as you alluded to the expectations for props is quite different.

I'd be surpised if Slimani is getting anywhere close to 1000 minutes for us next season.

[ronk]

Purely on the basis that he is an aging, heavy set French prop not known for his fitness. Most T14 props are conditioned to only play 45-50 min, but be massive.

The thing is, in defense, you don't choose how much work you need to put in if they target you. So managing yourself isn't in your control.

Yeah you do. You stand beside the ruck and let them pick and drive as much as they like. Tightheads welcome that. When you're not on your own line pillars don't need line speed.

If they move around every few phases to target you then you mostly wait. They're coming anyway so why move to them.

[Ruckedtobits]

Slimani is a far higher-level scrummager than Big Mike ever was with us.

I never considered him to be an immobile prop defensively. He's not a dominant ball carrier but he will handle URC-level scrums (ex-SA teams) very easily.

He will be a perfect back-up to Furlong at highest Club level.

He could be a significant developer of Clarkson & McGuire, particularly regarding body angles and use of legs in the scrum.