Sea_point wrote:Sauvignon Blank wrote:My opening gambit on this thread was that i empathised with his struggle with Cancer, much like any human being struggling with the disease. And i still do.
What I did criticise or 'slag off' as you term, was his shenannigans whilst managing the Aussies. And like it or lump seapoint, id raise this point to Stynes myself if i ever met him.
talk is fecking cheap on a forum and from what I've read here you're definitely all talk (why don't you send him an email with your considered opinions, I'm sure he could do with a good laugh...).
You should email him your patethic story about you and your classmates having to leave a desolate devestated place in the 80s to escape a life of lager drinking and crime
now that would make Jimmy Stynes of Australia laugh. It certainly made me chuckle to myself.
Sauvignon Blank wrote:
Not that he'd care of course, as he wouldn't give a skippy piss what an irishman thought judging by his past.
seapoint wrote:
I'm sure he would but he'd probably be choosy about which particular type of Irishman, given he's lived there for 25 years, is an Australian citizen and quite naturally considers himself Australian.
I care not one jot about schmoozing with Jimmy, you on the other hand probably do. And yes he does consider himself Australian. Its just he was born and raised in Dublin. But then again, apart from the Aborigines, arent they all Irish, English, Scots etc at some point.
So I may have to concede some ground. Fair enough.
seapoint wrote:
Hardly surprising seeing that they are obviously taken with him after a phenomenal career in AFL by Australian standards let alone Irish. Being twice named Victorian of the Year (2001 and 2003) and being honoured by the Queen with the Medal of the Order of Australia in (2007) and Melburnian of the Year (2010).
Does he have a Blue Peter badge and Mr&Mrs Carriage clock to?
Put your willy away seapoint
seapoint wrote:
But maybe he should have turned those down just to appease real Irishmen like yourself back in Ireland.........
Can you define that term for me as distinct from 'an Irishman'?
Should he have turned them down? of course not, every little helps in your adopted country when you have previously escaped a desolate poverty ridden life back in Dublin because you didnt attend Blackrock college. Comedy gold seapoint
seapoint wrote:
Despite all your bluster you must be one seriously insecure individual if you think that every Irish born person who leaves our shore has to cling on to Irishness every day for the rest of their lives or measure up to your standards of Irishness...
Erm, youre telling porkies again seapoint
making things up. Do point out where i said 'every Irish born person has to cling on to Irishness for the rest of their lives'. If you cannot stick to the main point without resorting to lies then best left alone.
What I said...just for your benefit again...
He forgot his roots and turned on his country. To some this is shameful to others with an identity crisis(yourself) this means nothing. Thats fine, i accept it doesn't rankle with you because your definition of 'Irishness' is rather vague.
However, you are probably one of these gobshites that becomes all pseudo patriotic when England come to town, or when at Twickenham, sing the anthem a bit louder in earshot of English fans and mumble some of the words because you dont know them. Behind that facade you are also quite uncomfortable with your own history? I could be wrong but .......probably not.
Finally, you didn't answer the question concerning Gerry Ryan. Care to? or was it just plain truthful?