Ireland V England

[epaddy]

They did very well. Was looking very bleak when we lost 4 wickets in 4 overs

I repeat - what's an over?

Dont worry about it

[StuF]

Good that they managed to bat out the full 50 and respectable enough in the end.

[Uncle Mort]

They did very well. Was looking very bleak when we lost 4 wickets in 4 overs

I repeat - what's an over?

When the bowling team bowl 6 balls

This is only half the story

An over is 6 legitimate balls bowled by a single bowler from one end of the pitch unless that bowler is unable to finish the over (i.e. bowl the 6 balls due to injury - in which case the over is completed by another bowler, but this bowler can not bowl an over and a part over consecutively). At the end of the over, a different bowler, bowls from the other end to the other batsman. There are essentially two ways that any ball may not be legitimate, the first is the wide. A ball is wide when the ball is so delivered that the batsman is unable to play a shot and hit the ball - i.e it is too wide for him to hit. However, in one day cricket balls which are bowled down the leg side - picture the batsman standing with bat in hand, side on to the bowler, the leg side is the side of the legs, the other side is the off side. The leg side is also called the on side. However, balls which are bowled down the leg side are also called wide if the batsman does not hit the ball, or the ball does not hit the batsman, this is because such balls are hard to score off and in the one day context are deemed to be unfair. A wide may also be called if the ball bounces so far over the batsman's head that he can not hit the ball, but local conditions in one day cricket would normally deem it to be a no ball when the ball passes the batsman over the normal shoulder height of that batsman when he is in his batting position. If the ball is called wide by the umpire standing at the bowlers end he will signal this to the scorers by holding both arms out horizontally. One additional run is added to the score and the ball is not counted as one of the six in the over. However, should the batsman charge down the wicket and miss a wide ball which is taken by the wicket keeper and the wicket is broken (the bails must be removed for the wicket to be broken) the batsman can be given out stumped. Should the batsmen attempt a run then either batsman can be run out. Any runs scored off the wide - by the wicket keeper missing the ball and it running to the boundary, or the batsmen taking extra runs then these runs are added to one extra run so in theory five runs can be scored from a wide. A no ball can be caused by many things - the most usual is for the bowler to overstep the popping crease (the forward white line) when he delivers the ball. In this case the no ball is called by the umpire at the bowlers end. Other things which can lead to a no ball being called are the bowler straightening his arm during delivery, in which case the ball is not bowled but chucked, bowling too wide from the crease and cutting the return crease (the two white lines that run backwards from the popping crease and perpendicular to it). Should the wicket keeper take (catch) the ball in front of the line of the stumps (unless it has been touched or played by the batsman) will cause the umpire at square leg to call no ball. Also the fielding team is only allowed to have two players backwards of square on the on side at the time the ball is bowled - this was a result of the imfamous bodyline series of the 1930s when England Captain Douglas Jardine used his fast bowlers, principally Harold Larwood, to bowl leg theory as a means of counter acting Australia's great batsman Donald Bradman. So there are many ways that a no ball can both be bowled by the bowler but also created by the fielding team. Scoring off a no ball is the same as with a wide - one run is added and an extra ball bowled but the batsman can not be out except run out. A batsman may not be stumped off a no ball - he can off a wide but not a no ball. The principal advantage is that this gives the batsman a free hit a he can not be caught, lbw or bowled and any runs scored by him a credited to him along with the extra for the no ball. The umpire signals a no ball by calling no ball and raising one arm horizontally. And only when 6 good balls, excluding no balls and wides have been bowled is the over called over. One day international cricket is always played to a number of overs (currently 50) and this number is always devisible by five with each bowler having a maximum number of overs that he can bowl (currently 10), this means that a team must have a minimum of 5 bowlers, though more can be used, as a bowler can bowl less than 10 but not more than 10.

I hope this helps.

[claire_m]

I repeat - what's an over?

When the bowling team bowl 6 balls

This is only half the story

An over is 6 legitimate balls bowled by a single bowler from one end of the pitch unless that bowler is unable to finish the over (i.e. bowl the 6 balls due to injury - in which case the over is completed by another bowler, but this bowler can not bowl an over and a part over consecutively). At the end of the over, a different bowler, bowls from the other end to the other batsman. There are essentially two ways that any ball may not be legitimate, the first is the wide. A ball is wide when the ball is so delivered that the batsman is unable to play a shot and hit the ball - i.e it is too wide for him to hit. However, in one day cricket balls which are bowled down the leg side - picture the batsman standing with bat in hand, side on to the bowler, the leg side is the side of the legs, the other side is the off side. The leg side is also called the on side. However, balls which are bowled down the leg side are also called wide if the batsman does not hit the ball, or the ball does not hit the batsman, this is because such balls are hard to score off and in the one day context are deemed to be unfair. A wide may also be called if the ball bounces so far over the batsman's head that he can not hit the ball, but local conditions in one day cricket would normally deem it to be a no ball when the ball passes the batsman over the normal shoulder height of that batsman when he is in his batting position. If the ball is called wide by the umpire standing at the bowlers end he will signal this to the scorers by holding both arms out horizontally. One additional run is added to the score and the ball is not counted as one of the six in the over. However, should the batsman charge down the wicket and miss a wide ball which is taken by the wicket keeper and the wicket is broken (the bails must be removed for the wicket to be broken) the batsman can be given out stumped. Should the batsmen attempt a run then either batsman can be run out. Any runs scored off the wide - by the wicket keeper missing the ball and it running to the boundary, or the batsmen taking extra runs then these runs are added to one extra run so in theory five runs can be scored from a wide. A no ball can be caused by many things - the most usual is for the bowler to overstep the popping crease (the forward white line) when he delivers the ball. In this case the no ball is called by the umpire at the bowlers end. Other things which can lead to a no ball being called are the bowler straightening his arm during delivery, in which case the ball is not bowled but chucked, bowling too wide from the crease and cutting the return crease (the two white lines that run backwards from the popping crease and perpendicular to it). Should the wicket keeper take (catch) the ball in front of the line of the stumps (unless it has been touched or played by the batsman) will cause the umpire at square leg to call no ball. Also the fielding team is only allowed to have two players backwards of square on the on side at the time the ball is bowled - this was a result of the imfamous bodyline series of the 1930s when England Captain Douglas Jardine used his fast bowlers, principally Harold Larwood, to bowl leg theory as a means of counter acting Australia's great batsman Donald Bradman. So there are many ways that a no ball can both be bowled by the bowler but also created by the fielding team. Scoring off a no ball is the same as with a wide - one run is added and an extra ball bowled but the batsman can not be out except run out. A batsman may not be stumped off a no ball - he can off a wide but not a no ball. The principal advantage is that this gives the batsman a free hit a he can not be caught, lbw or bowled and any runs scored by him a credited to him along with the extra for the no ball. The umpire signals a no ball by calling no ball and raising one arm horizontally. And only when 6 good balls, excluding no balls and wides have been bowled is the over called over. One day international cricket is always played to a number of overs (currently 50) and this number is always devisible by five with each bowler having a maximum number of overs that he can bowl (currently 10), this means that a team must have a minimum of 5 bowlers, though more can be used, as a bowler can bowl less than 10 but not more than 10.

I hope this helps.

Bet you're glad you asked, Eve!

I was at the game both yesterday, and the Ireland v Sussex game on Sunday. I think Ireland played much better yesterday than they did on Sunday (2nd ball duck for Dom Joyce on Sunday - it seems that he hadn't learned that lesson yesterday though!)

Trescothick played well, and Harmison looked quite dangerous when his radar was firing, but I think overall the English were disappointing. I would think that Sri Lanka are quaking in their boots at the prospect of facing that England side, but then they did lose to Essex last week!

It just goes to show how England don't have much strength in depth. I'm not sure that Harmison should be playing yet, but with Simon Jones out, as well as Flintoff, and Hoggy not considered for 1 day cricket, the management prob feel that they have to have at least one of their strike bowlers playing. Some of the shot selection was interesting (on both sides), but it's going to be a long summer for the English 1 day side!

[StuF]

Dunno about Harmi Claire. considering his lack of match practice 3 for 58 ain't bad for a quicky. And over 20 of those runs were from extras he gave away which won't happen once he settles back into things. Trent Johnston's comments are interesting on the matter:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket ... 078474.stm

[StuF]

Dunno about Harmi Claire. considering his lack of match practice 3 for 58 ain't bad for a quicky. And over 20 of those runs were from extras he gave away which won't happen once he settles back into things. Trent Johnston's comments are interesting on the matter:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket ... 078474.stm

apologies Claire - just read your post properly

interview is intersting though

[Eve]

Thanks Uncle Mort